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Everything posted by notin
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It’s a business for all of them. As Sox fans we’re fortunate to have an owner who actually is very much a baseball fan. But it’s still a business to him. Just a business that he loves...
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U I heard he would have taken less money to play for the Yankees. Maybe they needed to offer less?
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There is some sound financial logic in saving millions and millions of dollars. If you’re John Henry the Businessman, don’t you see the value in winning a title and maximizing the fan base, and then cutting spending knowing the team could still repeat and is good enough to retain a lot of fans?
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Which was the point. Trading for a gets a lot more difficult when you spend a bunch of trade chips on a closer. Move almost backfired horrifically when Price had arm issues two years into the deal...
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Actually in many cases, stars keep teams mediocre, because one player can only do so much sometimes...
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Just like the Yankees were sure they were getting Cliff Lee. If that was his plan, it was pretty dangerous. He was one crazy GM away from a bidding war that put Price’s deal into another stratosphere. And if he didn’t get Orice, same rotation with a better closer and fewer prospects? Does that seem like a well thought out plan? But I guess since he was that crazy GM...
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Actually at closer, he has gone for a lot of shiny junk in the past...
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Per MLBTR...
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Is that really a matter of austerity or wealth? After all, the Yankees spent 20% less of their revenue than league average but still outspent over two-thirds of the league. If the Yankees did spend 50% of their revenue on payroll, what would their payroll be?
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OMG I agree with cp176 on all points. Bookmark this post!
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Yes. He went for a big name. Was closer really the biggest need at the time? Was it the second biggest? The Sox weren’t coming off last place finishes due to issues with the closer. He did fill one much bigger need with Price, but it’s not like he knew he was going to get him when he traded for Kimbrel. And if his plan was to go as high as it took, it just proves my point further. Why do you suppose his first deal was for Kimbrel? Not just for a closer - but Kimbrel. There were plenty of free agent closers available at the time. Why go for the biggest available name?
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Yes and no. There is usually an impact on season ticket sales before the season in anticipation of winning. But even if the team is successful, the weight of those star contracts can drag a team into mediocrity fast. And when that happens, all winning is forgotten. The losing is remembered forever. But the winning is forgotten immediately....
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They do remember that. They don’t trade for Craig Kimbrel and sign Carl Crawford because it necessarily enhances the baseball team; they do it to appease fans who like star players...
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I dunno. I heard he made his billions on scratch cards...
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Ockimey does bring very little to the table right now. The Marlins could have had him for free, but instead have opted to try 28yo Pete O’Brien - who has already on at least his fourth organization and third position - as their first baseman...
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Getting Kimbrel and not getting rid of Hembree, whom I am noticing many fans seem to undervalue, would be a bigger plus. Seriously, I do not get all this Hembree Hate and corresponding Workman Love. Or Johnson Love...
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But whether or not they are justified by the long term payroll increase and corresponding worse years is another analysis. So can we expect a full report by, say, 2pm-ish?
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As a winning team, certainly it works. As a business, I’m not so sure. I don’t know much about their profitability vs operating costs and I can’t tell you how much revenue is due to their ability to sign free agents as opposed to their means, like TV and radio deals...
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For a business or as a winning team?
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Hey if Carson Smith can actually get healthy and pitch like he did in Seattle, he’s a great add. Granted, this is like his third or fourth season in Boston and he has less than 25 IP, so he is at best a lottery ticket...
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Also - and more important- who gives a f*** what some fans think? I know some people believe otherwise, but Dombrowski doesn’t check out message boards for ideas on how to run a team. If the Sox aren’t spending, that ests solely with him or his boss. Fans have all kinds of ideas on how to run a team. Some a right, some are wrong. All are irrelevant. Also, let’s face it. We’re also probably also all wrong...
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What’s the league average?
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In order to afford Kimbrel, it’s going to take more than just clearing Hembree’s salary ...
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Also, you left out all my really good lines from that post!! Come on, man!!
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But really, free agency was something the players fought for. Not the owners, not theGMs, not the fans. It’s not their for our benefit or the Sox benefit. And I’m really not sure any GM or owner in the league would call the Sox tightwads right now seeing as to how their payroll is close to a quarter billion dollars. At some point, like any economic bubble, that situation will burst...
