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  1. notin
    Nomar was one half season removed from being a 6fWAR player when he was traded. Fred Lynn was valued at 8.6 fWAR one season before being dealt. That really is Betts territory. The Lynn trade didn’t work out, largely because Sullivan made a stupid trade. (Why was Lynn traded?). It will be a tough sell if Betts gets traded. But if trading Betts is the first step to resetting and bringing him back long term, sign me up...
  2. notin
    Yes, but how should this team get more pitching or improve their pitching if: 1) they cannot afford to pay anyone without exceeding their self-imposed spending limits And 2) they have no internal minor league options to try and none to trade for established players? I know many think “don’t impose those spending limits.” And maybe they won’t, but it’s not like this team has been held back by their unwillingness to spend, and they do have the right to dial back every once in a while to minimize penalties...
  3. notin
    Tell them. They’re are two possible reasons for changes. 1) Change in (projected) salary. Expect a bunch to change as arbitration cases end. 2) Change in projected future WAR.
  4. notin
    While moving Betts could be unpopular with the casual everyday he gets his sports news from Bob Lobel (is he still working?), that doesn’t change the fact that fans want one thing more than star players - winners. When defending Dombrowski’s depletion of the farm, not one single fan said “But he got star players!!” No one ever justified the Nomar trade by saying “Orlando Cabrera is a bigger star, and most definitely not a slimy little selfish weasel about to disembark on a trail of burned bridges around MLB.” The Sox were an 84!win team last year. No one was happy. Bring back the same team, maybe an 84 win team again. They had Betts, too. This team is capable of mediocrity with him or without him. Does keeping Betts and winning 84 games next year really retain fans? Especially if they reset the taxes and can’t add anyone? And then lose Betts to free agency helps those fans how?
  5. notin
    I see they updated Myers’ value. Hey if the Padres have to include a few of their prospects to help with their 40 man roster crunch, all the better. David Price for Myers, Trey Wingenter and Jorge Ona...
  6. notin
    We all knew if he was great for 3 years he would opt out. But once he got injured that second year, the chances of his opting out plummeted drastically...
  7. notin
    No. Once he spent 2017 basically out of action, I suggested the only possible reason he would opt out was he simply wanted out of Boston, a scenario I considered very unlikely. I was told repeatedly he was not opting out, which was the same thing I said, but still told so rather aggressively...
  8. notin
    Starting pitching was the problem last year. But would you consider Price to be part of the problem or part of the solution?
  9. notin
    Ok but they did go 37-20 against Baltimore, Toronto and Boston...
  10. notin
    Like me?
  11. notin
    Yes, nearly. Although my dissent was not so much prophetic as it was my normal disdain for long contracts. Still, Price went sour too quickly, and replacing him with a pitcher who shows up for more than one season in a 3 year stretch might not be so hard. I wouldn’t trade him for Robinson Cano (also owed $96mill, but with a $24mill AAV). But if the Sox can pawn him off for a far, far lesser bad contract like Wil Myers or Rougned Odor, I think it’s a good idea. And it might allow the Sox to hold on to Betts...
  12. notin
    He got promoted?
  13. notin
    Bloom’s “reputation” for building a low budget contender might need to be tempered just a tad. While what he did this year in Tampa was impressive, bear in mind his division competitors included the worst team in the league, another team trying to unload all its major leaguers to replace them with their kids, and a Dave Dombrowski’s quarter billion dollar tribute to Murphy’s Law...
  14. notin
    It is comical the penalties Yankee fans feel other teams should be subjected to, especially if the crime is beating the Yankees. Like when Sterling suggested on the radio that all the Red Sox victories over the Yankees should be forfeited and credited to the Yankees. Is he that unaware of MLB history with this kind of thing?
  15. notin
    The last pitcher the Sox signed for $30mill didn’t work out so well. If Betts doesn’t sign with Boston, cross his name off the check and pen in “Rafael Devers”...
  16. notin
    No. If that’s the reason, then he never grew up...
  17. notin
    Ok but part of that reason was the incredibly stupid returns. The Sox traded Lynn, Hobson and Burleson for Carney Lansford, Mark Clear, a couple aging players and a “prospect” who sucked in the minors. If the Sox deal Betts, they might ultimately get nothing. But it looks like Sullivan asked for nothing up front....
  18. notin
    I like the idea of trading Price for Wil Myers, which immediately knocks $18mill in AAV of the Sox payroll...
  19. notin
    No doubt Shaughnessy has unimpeachable sources. But it’s definitely true he puts a pessimistic spin on everything as he has for decades...
  20. notin
    Oh no doubt the Sox want to move Price. But Chaim Bloom will have an easier time learning to speak the language of the humpback whales than he will trying to move Price and his contract...
  21. notin
    I was speaking in general. There isn’t anyone currently in the Sox farm garnering any immediate interest from fans. But that hasn’t always been the case. But I do remember Jacoby Ellsbury over incumbent Coco Crisp as a fan favorite. Heck I remember the Boston press getting all wound up over Steve Lyons as a replacement for Wade Boggs...
  22. notin
    In a lot of cases, the fans actually cling to the AAA player more than the MLB player, but that usually happens with players a lot less talented than Betts. But then, that’s not even the case with Betts. Heck the Sox don’t even have a replacement for Bradley lined up in the minors. Really the best comp we might have is Fred Lynn. Not only was Lynn a high performing player, he was amazingly popular. Not sure why he was traded away, especially for that incredibly mediocre package, but the team and fan base survived. Sox fans are lucky that the team has really always at least tried to put a winning team on the field. They never sold everything off for a bunch of minor leaguers who were 3 to 4 years away. But they are in a bind right now, left with a massive budget and a very, very weak minor league system incapable of picking up the pieces. They need/want to shed some salary, but most of the more expensive players are unreadable. The one guy that they might be able to move and plug a few holes is Betts...
  23. notin
    If I was a GM for another team, making me take on Price to get Betts would be an absolute deal breaker.
  24. notin
    Bottom line - if you want the good years of Betts, you have to be willing to also pay heavily for the declining years of Betts as well...
  25. notin
    That’s just a stupid statement by whoever wrote it. The Sox have survived worse. Not to mention, if the Yankees sign Betts when he comes a free agent, it’s not like the Sox could stop it...
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