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It does happen. And if the Orioles don’t give him a chance on those 6 years, it is on them. And really, how many times did teams pass on him in the Rule 5 draft? Just because one good player was a victim of the system doesn’t mean it needs an overhaul...

... which would not have helped trim the payroll and could have backfired completely if Kluber spent half the year on IL...

Seriously? That’s like criticizing Amazon because it doesn’t tell you if you need to buy something...

True but the college players do get the advantage of fewer options. And plenty of college players get released before age 28...

I see the bar was moved again. Again - simple question - if Chicago is truly desperate for a pitcher with World Series wins under his belt - why hasn’t this deal happened? Bigger question is why Price for Vaughn over just signing Bumgarner...

The mere mention of Price’s name mean it needs to come up. Oh no! I mentioned Price name!! And there I did it again!! That’s two more trade value references..,

A lot of minor leaguers might agree. But bear in mind some of these kids sign at 16...

And he’s starting to include it in posts where it’s not even relevant...

And poorer...

Kluber to the Rangers. Shall we cue the posts where Sox fans propose Bieber for some of our farm system dreck?

I don't think any GM would line up for any of them, but when they had a chance to one year ago, the line in front of Eovaldi was reportedly longer...

That does happen. Minor league players not placed on the 40 man roster within 6 years become minor league free agents...

Sonny Gray isn't 37 and won't be for a few more years. Happ is actually less desirable than Eovaldi for a few reasons. And you know this based on the activity and contracts both got when they were competing free agents one year ago. Eovaldi's injury really doesn't change this, since it was hardly a surprise. If the Yankees can move Happ, be happy. But they are going to eat a good chunk and probably get back very little, if anything. But the proposal on the Yankee thread was the team could move all $17mill by including some ubiquitous mediocrity like Steve Tarpley. Not going to happen. While he's a better trade target than Price, that doesn't put Happ in demand. And while the Yankees have some good pitchers on the farm, that doesn't mean teams are clamoring to get any of them to the point where they will gladly pay $17mill to any warm body coming down the pipeline with them. Want someone to take Happ's contract? Attach a real prospect. Flovial still might get the job done, but he won't if he continues down this path. Maybe Gil? And if your selling point at any time uses the words "he could," then you don't have a selling point. We might as well have posts saying "David Price could bounce back to Cy Young form. And if he does he's a bargain." And you know what, that is a true statement. But it's not a selling point, since its not very likely. Happ is an innings eater at this point, which even you yourself said, but in more market-friendly verbiage. He is the older (re: less durable) version of Rick Porcello. If a 30yo innings-eater is worth $10mill, a 37yo innings eater is not worth $17mill. That the price of Cole and Strasburg went up really doesn't affect the price of Happ...

Honestly, before the 2018 season started I was not sure this team was going to make the post-season that year...

The Yankees have some trade chips. Some good (Andujar), some overrated but not bad (Frazier), and some flat out bad (Happ). But I think Cashman spent his allowance...

In the Bronx?

But the White Sox are desperate.. Of course, they have been remarkably quiet as desperate teams go. And if they wanted to spend for a 2-2.5 fWAR pitcher, they could get Julio Teheran for a lot less than $32mill. Heck, they might be able to get Bumgarner for less per year....

But do they still have any bounce left in them? If so, I'm tempted by this offer...

That clinches it. I'm penning them in for the AL pennant. I don't even see a point in playing out the season. Houston-Atlanta World Series. Let's just play this out next week and then there is still time to start the 2020-2021 offseason...

There are a few lesser yet still bad contracts I wouldn't mind taking back, either. Dee Gordon, for example, is someone the Mariners want to unload to get playing time for Shed Long. But Gordon is an excelent defensive 2B and his 1 yr /$10mill contract would be acceptable in a dump of Price. But there would very likely need to be a third team involved, since I doubt the cost-ravaging Mariners want to take on a $96 mill contract over 3 years. Zack Cozart is another deal I'd take back. But I have a feeling Bloom is just going to pay the deal down...

But she's gonna be a Yankee fan!!!

Agreed. And I don't even understand the minor league phase. What exactly happens to the drafted player?

Every Red Sox board needs a resident Yankee fan. Every Yankee board I have ever tried to post on usually immediately bans anyone who doesn't immediately fellate all things pinstriped. I don't even try to post on those intolerable places anymore..

So I have no idea? Are you saying you do? Exactly what is your source that the White Sox are desperate? (Hint: They're not.) This isn't even a situation where I need to know how desperate a team is. That's just an incredibly stupid trade, and never assume a team will make an incredibly stupid trade. According to you, the White Sox desperately want Price and are willing to drop their top two prospects for him. Why hasn't Bloom done this? I'm the guy you don't want as GM, but I would have done this trade a week ago. I would have skipped contract review (the first step in any trade) just to make it happen faster. What's holding up the guy you do want as GM? Shall we make this a sig bet? I say the White Sox do not trade Madrigal ad Vaughn for Price. You say they will. Agree? For the record, I don't think Rick Hahn would trade Vaughn and Madrigal for David Price even if Chaim Bloom was holding his children hostage...

The White Sox aren’t trading Andy Vaughn for David Price. Not trading Madrigal, either. And most definitely not trading both. If the White Sox wanted to do that, why isn’t it done? Did Bloom day No?