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And I think you refuse to acknowledge he doesn’t fit your statement about the trend being to rotate players into a DH role. Whether or not Ihtani could field is irrelevant. He doesn’t, except at pitcher. He didn’t take over for a struggling Conforto in LF for example. And no one on the Dodgers rotates into the DH slot even when Ohtani pitches. And that is because even when he pitches, he DHs. MLB even changed the rules so that he is two players, just like in Yahoo fantasy baseball. And he DHd 158 times last year. I do hope that counts as full time. Sorry, but your premise that teams use the role as a rotation to rest players most definitely does not apply to the Dodgers, more so than any other team…

So by this thread, almost no teams have a full time catcher! DH is like any other position. Most teams have a player (or a platoon) they plan to start until injuries or performance forces a change. No team uses it as a rotation to rest their regulars…

It’s not a glowing report on his contract. I suspect Breslow agrees.,

Using your numbers, probably 0. Boston had a guy do it 100% of the time until they traded him. But do you think if not for injuries, Stanton, Alvarez, Ozuna, Schwarber, Ohtani (he does DH even when he pitches), Suzuki, and Diaz don’t DH that often? I’d add Santander as well but his .541 OPS should have been a factor even in the absence of a Springer injury…

I think that’s your entire point, but you’ve tried to argue Yoshida is some sort of singular instance of a player limited to starting DH. There’s a massive difference between saying teams don’t have full time DHs anymore and Yoshida isn’t a good DH. The former is flat out untrue. The latter opinion is shared by many. And your Ohtani argument was specious. Yes, he pitches, hence his insane salary. But he’s a full time DH even when he pitches. And has multiple MVP awards, none of which were earned on the mound. Heck, MLB re-wrote the rules to accommodate him in that regard…

My theory is Breslow, like you, isn’t wild about Yoshida or his contract. But the Sox most definitely had a full time DH for the first 73 games last year…

Which gives DH ss much flux as any other position except catcher, where starters typically play 120-130 games due to physical strains. No one would argue the Sox didn’t enter the season without a full time 3b last year, despite Bregman only starting 75% of their games…

Unless the Cubs bring back Tucker, Suzuki will see his role change in 2026 as he goes back to RF. That’s not a rotation. Really the Cubs kill your argument more . than any other team. They had 4 good outfielders, like Boston, with Happ, PCA, Tucker and Suzuki. All four are good defensive outfielders. PCA won a GG in CF. Happ has won multiple Gold Gloves in LF. Suzuki and Tucker both grade out well on multiple defensive metrics. But when all 4 were healthy, Suzuki played DH almost exclusively. His time in the OF giving Happ and Tucker days off occasionally pushed them to DH, but with no greater frequency than any other player. Less with Happ, who started 3 games at DH. Tucker started more, but a lot of that was due to shoulder(?) issues. And Seiya’s vocal objections to being a full time DH. I don’t see the Sox doing this. Yoshida might be platooned at DH, which makes sense. DH is the best position for a platoon because differences in defensive abilities don’t matter…

Right. I’m talking nonsense to a guy who presented Miguel Ballesteros and Owen Caissie as taking 65% of the Cubs Dh time desire them only totaling 93 plate appearances for the season. Suzuki started 102 games at DH per baseball-reference. What is your source saying 14%? Suzuki probably would have been there more if Kyle Tucker didnt get hurt.

This one is so misleading. I am not sure it was intentional, but at first glance one might think the author said Ballesteos got 40% of the Cubs’ DH plate appearances and Caissie got another 25%. The reality is Baesteros had 66 PA for the season and Caissie had 27 PA. These players were barely involved. Suzuki handled the bulk of their DH, and got some OF time in primarily when Tucker was injured. Like Devers, Suzuki was unhappy being a full time DH. Unlike Devers, he did everything his manager asked anyway…

Springer moved to DH after an injury. The Jays reportedly signed Santander to be their DH, but the return of Springer combined with his inability to return to the OF full time plus Santander’s .541 OPS made the decision easier. Santander is proof Youre wrong given his contract and anticipated role…

And does that happen IF ALVAREZ IS HEALTHY ALL YEAR? Alvarez missed May, June, July and most of August with an injury. Replacing injured players doesn’t mean the injured player was not a full time starter. This literally applies to every situation you have found. …

Pure rotation? Profar DHd one game after returning from a 60 game suspension. Acuna was injured and upon returning DHd half a dozen times. You keep confusing injury with rotation. Might as well argue the Sox had a pure rotation at 3b between Bregman, Mayer, Romy, Sogard…

Trout played the outfield in April, got hurt, and missed almost all of May. Upon returning, he never played the OF again. Soler was DHing in April and May when Triut was out, but Soler’s last game at DH was June 1st. After that he played OF until his season ended in late July. They didn’t even overlap in the role…

I don’t care how many teams you look at, but at least do one of them correctly. Trout didn’t rotate at DH with Soler. Theyre time at DH didn’t overlap. Soler DHd when Trout was injured, and early in the season when Trout was allowed to play the OF. From June 1 on, Trout was the DH and DH only. St. Louis used Herrera in a similar capacity. No injury, but he was almost an exclusive DH starting in May. And it wasn’t to get Pedro Pages’ bat into the lineup. More likely it was to get Pages’ glove on the field. Herrera did catch maybe half a dozen games, but catchers actually do need more days off as the position is physically demanding. Plenty of teams have dedicated DHs. While some team might occasionally use the role to give a injured/sore player a day off, it just isn’t practical to make that a daily thing. Rather than try to convince yourself the Sox are not normal by having a full time DH and doing poor research, just admit you don’t like Yoshida for the role? Much, much easier. If the Sox had signed Schwarber, you wouldn’t be saying this. It’s ok to admit you think Yoshida isnt a good DH…

It literally isn’t. Mike Trout got injured and missed all of May. Upon returning in early June, he never played the outfield again. Soler DH’d for ONE GAME after June 1, when Trout returned. Youre looking at players that got hurt and assuming they played part time.

Because you need a DH for all 162 games. If the Sox used the DH role to fit in their 4 outfielders, Thats the same as having a dedicated DH. And Theyre still not all gong to play 162 games even if healthy, because Cora doesn’t rest players to get them rest; he rests players to keep the bench players active. And that will still happen…

Actually, it isn’t practical. You need a DH for all 162 games. No team “rests” a starter every game. And most teams don’t have that many starters they would want to play at DH. The Sox might “rest” Contreras or Anthony at DH, but even if they did it 20 times each - which is a lot - that still means they need a DH for the other 122 games. Are they going to use Rafaela at DH 20 times? Or Mayer? The whole “use the DH to rest players” thing is a fantasy created by fans who hate watching players get an occasional day off. But a big part of the reason those players get a day off is also to keep the bench players active. DH is a position. Whether or not Yoshida is a good DH is a different matter entirely. Just because many players settle into the DH role doesn’t change this. The same can be said about 1b and closer, but no one views them as a “resting spot” for other players…

Outside of Hunter Goodman, who? Are you counting Yordan Alvarez as a part time DH because he was injured? I know hou’re counting Ivan Herrera, who caught maybe 6 games after May 1. Thats not really rotating players in the position. Who else?

Then what was your point? I thought you were saying Yoshida was a waste because he’s a dedicated DH and most teams “rotate the DH,” an unexplained phrase that is equally unsupported when attributed to most teams…

So who really rotates the DH? You never answered the question. Most teams seem to have a starting DH just like they have a starting SS or a starting RF. It’s not a position you use to “rest” players like fans want. So again - who has a rotating DH?

What is St. Louis asking for?

Campbell would be trade fodder if he didn’t sign that extension. They’ll want him putting up the gaudiest numbers in AAA possible before they deal him …

I think he can be pushed off the roster if the off-season pans out unexpectedly. But the fact that he hadn’t already been DFAd does indicate he is the current front runner for a bench role…

That’s why I blamed Cora, and not you…