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Like it or not, I think he has the 5 slot for 2024 locked up. What's not to like?

Fangraphs scores: Sox 50 Bello 45+ Gonzalez 45 Wink, Seabold, Walter 40+ Mata, Ward, Song 40 Crawford, German, Bazardo, Wallace, 35+ (16 pitchers) NYY 50 45+ Gomez 45 Thorpe, Beeter, Gil 40+ Marinaccio, Ridings, Garcia, Lange 40 Vazquez, Sauer, Vrieling, Selvidge, Beck 35+ (5 total) So, 45+ Sox 5-3 40 to 40+ Yanks 9-7 35+ Sox 16-5 Which farm is top heavy? Which farm is shallow?

Well, they really haven't. First pitcher taken... 2022: 99th pick (rd 4) 2021: 105th (4th) 2020: 118th (3rd) 2019: 107th (3rd) 2018: 100th (3rd) So, 99th has been our highest drafted pitcher in 5 years.

Abreu now has 113 BBs and 31 SBs to go with that .828 OPS.

Wait till they catch the Astros hacking into the system!

How much do you really know about these guys. Hell, you didn't even think Whitlock was anything that special, and he was in your back yard. We are deeper than you think, and much deeper than we have been in almost a decade.

Not really with robo umps.

Some other notable numbers on the farm, with just a few days left to the end of the season: Kavadas .286 26 85 .449 OBP/ .563 SLG/ 1.012 OPS 100 BBs in 116 gms (142 Ks) and 52 XBHs in 378 ABs Rafaela .303 20 82 .347 OBP/ .545 SLG/ .892 OPS 62 XBHs in 462 ABs and 27 SBs in 112 gms Nathan Hickey .263 16 62 .415 OBP/ .522 SLG/ .936 OPS 63 BBs in 75 gms (78 Ks) Marcelo Mayer .280 13 53 .399/.489/.887 17 SB and 0 CS in 91 gms Brainer Bonaci .262 6 50 .397/..385/.782 28 SBs in 108 gms and 89 BB-89 Ks OPS (75+ PAs) .977 Meidroth FCL/SAL .896 M Bleis FCL .892 Mieses WOR .892 A James DSL .889 Casas FCL/WOR .874 Romero FCL/SAL .872 L James FCL .872 Sierra DSL .859 Duran WOR .852 Sikes GRE/SAL .844 Lugo GRE .838 Wong

I love your originality. No blah, blah, blah from you.

Bell "trying to intimidate others?" Get real.

I thank you for the positive attitude you have always shown towards the team you root for.

Have you really researched Sox prospects all that much? No "inkling they can pitch in the bigs." That's a pretty low bar you set to go on and neglect all pitchers beyond Bello & Mata. Now, what I'm about to say may not mean much, because our pitching prospects have been so scarce and underwhelming for many years, but this farm system has more quality and quantity of promising pitchers in a long time. We've already seen Crawford show signs he can "pitch in the bigs." Wink and Seabold, not so much, but the book is not closed on them, just yet. Beyond those that have pitched in the bigs and Mata, we have plenty of hopefuls, and I'm not talking long shots to "make the bigs." Frank German: .495 OPS Against in AA/AAA (63K in 49 IP) 0.90 WHIP He could easily be a very good set-up man or maybe even a decent c loser. Brandon Walter: .585 OPS Against (75 Ks and 7 BB in 58 IP in AA/AAA) Wikelman Gonzalez: .623 OPSA (121 Ks in 98 IP at A-/A+) Chris Murphy: .665 OPSA (136K in 134 IP AA/AAA) 1.24 WHIP Thaddeus Ward: .601 OPSA (66 Ks in 51 IP on 4 teams-rehabbing) Farther away or a longer shot: Luis Perales: .523 (50Ks in 36 IP at FCL/A-) Shane Drohan: .690 (157K in 130 IP) 1.26 in A+/AA) Tyler Uberstine: .657 (101 K in 92 IP at A-/A+) AJ Politi: .602 (74K in 64 IP in AA/AAA) Jacob Wallace: .670 (74 Ks in 55 IP at AA) Elmer Rodriguez-Cruz: .561 (42 in 38 IP at FCL/A-) Jedixson Paez: .523 (50Ks in 36 IP at FCL/A-) Juan Encarnacion: .642 (129K in 113 IP A-/A+) Luis de la Rosa: .626 (58Ks in 49 IP (FCL/A-) Others: Noah Song, Victor Santos, Ryan Fernandez, Angel Bastardo, Noah Dean, Luis Guerrero, Reidis Sena

Here is an update on some Sox prospects: The Bloom Additions via Trade: (OBP/SLG/OPS) .387/.573/.960 Enmanuel Valdez (2B/DH) 54 HRs/112 XBHs in his last 815 ABs .399/.424/.823 Wilyer Abreu (RF) 45 XBHs in 441 AB, 112 BBs this year with 30 SB/3 CS Vazquez .366/.339/.705 Max Ferguson (2B) 61 SBs/ 5 CS .359/.371/.730 Corey Rosier (OF) 40 SBs/ 5 CS Groome .335/.400/.735 David Hamilton (IF) 69 SBs/ 8 CS (heating up, recently) .306/.429/.745 Alex Binelas (IF) 25 Hrs & 47 XBHs in 424 ABs (147 Ks) Renfroe .315/.460/.775 Ronaldo Hernandez © 13 Hrs & 39 XBHs in 359 ABs (Mazza & Springs) .312/.429/.741 Christian Koss (IF) Most ABs in system at 473 (Aybar) .349/.489/.838 Connor Wong © 15 Hrs & 35 XBHs in 323 ABs .316/.412/.728 Jeter Downs (IF) 16 Hrs in 284 ABs, 18 SBs/ 4 CS (Betts) . ERA/ OPS Against Pitcher (IP, K/BB) WHIP 2.77/.495 German (49 IP, 63/19) 0.90 (w Ottavino for nothing) 3.06/.630 Seabold (82 IP, 85K/18 BB) 1.09 WHIP (Workman & Hembree) 3.70/.626 de la Rosa (49 IP, 58/21) 1.17 (Beni) 3.73/.617 Winckowski (51 IP, 52/13) 1.12 (Beni) 3.95/.670 J Wallace (55 IP, 45/7) 1.46 (Pillar) I'll cover others, later.

No, and it's not like Beni lit it up all the time with KC, either. I think he's on the IL, now. Plus, the money saved on the Beni trade allowed us to sign Renfroe and make the worst trade in a long time. I mean, the Beni trade has to be a plus just for that alone!

Plus, Whitlock lost time in the pen due to being used as a starter. I think Houck has to be mentioned, too, and he was a starter and on the IL, too.

Yes. I was wondering who would catch that. It took a while.

They added Strahm, Schreiber and used past additions, Whitlock, Wink and a few others as well. The farm also contributed Crawford and others. It didn't work well, this year. Many of the same names that did okay, last year, sucked, this year. The Diekman signing was awful, although we did salvage that signing by trading him and his contract for McGuire.

Yes, my bad- as is Binelas. The far-away prospects from the Beni trade have not done too much. Luis de la Rosa has promise.

Indeed, and they do better picking off the scrap heap and trading stars for prospects than they do drafting.

Mr. All-or-Nothing, himself. 48 XBHs 39 Singles 151 Ks

Every team does this to varying degrees. Hell, someone picked up Austin Davis. Maybe they see something where they think a tweak or adjustment might help, or maybe they just think this junker in better than the junker I just DFA'd. Many times, it's just hit or miss. Take the Martin perez example for SP'ers. Bloom was criticized, by me, too, for signing him- not once but twice. Now, look at him.

Well said, max. While fans might think winning now is all that matters, a GM has to look at more than just that. I think Bloom had a pretty good plan going into 2022. There were were some known holes and some that were not so known at the start. Injuries and collapses, like at 1B created some wide gaps. Those can be viewed as just making excuses, as is blaming a restricted winter spending budget, but it is just as real as looking at our budget and saying we should be winning more than we are. On building up the roster and farm from a pretty much decades long low point of 2020, I can't see how anyone can say Bloom has failed in this area, alone. Much still has yet to be determined, but he has added a lot of talent to the farm, and the depth of our 40 man roster is way better than 2020. This may be what has saved Bloom's job, but ownership looks beyond just one season's win-loss mark.

It might not be one guy, and if it is, that guy probably missed on a few, too. Also, remember when we said the same about Beeks? There was even a 9 or 10 game stretch where we were shaking our heads about Chris Mazza in 2021.

I like it, too, and I hope they keep it, but a lot of times it's used to highlight how bad an ump is, or how they vary.

True, and I end up reading what he writes via other poster's responses, and I respond, so I'm not really following my own advice.