moonslav59

Not every word you say is a lie, but you work hard at it.

I think everyone sees your lies. I don't care about being the first or last to see them.

Pretty warped thinking, but typical.

If we are looking for a DH and a boost in team OBP, what about Michael Brantley?

More strawmen.

It wasn't a joke. It was hyperbole.

ERod is in a mental institution. Most of the others are retired. Bloom sucks for not finding the Fountain of Youth.

It's all so conflicting.

Then stop caring

I fully understood his point and responded to one part of it.

Yes, I know, and you suggested Bloom tore down the 2018 team. I was responding to that.

You will never understand how long it takes to rebuild a farm and then to start seeing results. Check out when the Astros acquired their homegrown talent on the ML roster, now.

You crack me up. Bloom was not the GM in 2019. He took over the 2019 team with a mandate to make massive budget cuts. Then he watched Sale and ERod sit out 2020.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/07/details-on-spring-extension-talks-between-red-sox-rafael-devers.html https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/red_sox_reportedly_offered_3b_rafael_devers_200m_contract_extension_all_star_wants_over_300m/s1_13132_37399059

About the same as these reports.

Seemed like he totally believed the low-ball offer reports.

They spent big, early. They did not trade away top prospects, early. They spent big, later. They traded away top prospects, later.

It's just a hypothetical question. Had DD stayed on, he very well may have traded Casas and Bello for a player or two that helped us get more wins- your only gauge for success. Would it have been worth it? 2nd place. One round advancement. The future is now, so it matters little if the guy(s) he got in trade are still around for 2023, right?

It could be near double the money but over more years- something like $320M/10 or even 11 or 12 to bring the AAV down.

Well, we were discouraged when reports said we low-balled him, too.

We very well might have been a little better had DD been the GM under the same circumstances, but I honestly think he'd have quit under those conditions. I doubt our farm would be ranked so highly, and yes, I know that is just speculative value. For argument's sake, would you have wanted us to trade Casas and Bello and finish in 2nd place with one playoff round win in 2022?

The edit button does not work for me, many times. I meant WS (World Series) not WAS.

I never said Bloom has been a success. We aren't even sure, yet, if the apparent farm build-up will amount to what we hope it will. IMO, the top priority Bloom was handed was to build up the farm. It's fine to disagree. Another top priority, after 2020, was to try and be competitive while rebuilding, and Bloom is 1 for 2 on that front. I don't think JH or anyone in the organization felt like a WS was the expectation in 2021 or 2022. It might be yours and many other fans, but I honestly don't think they expected it. They certainly did not expect a last place finish either, especially after the promise the 2021 team showed. As you pointed out, injuries were a big key to that letdown. I also think declines by too many returning vets was a big reason, too, and I don't think either of them can be blamed fully on Bloom. The deadwood on the budget, either. We like to point to JBJ and Paxton and a few other failed moves, but overall, IMO, Bloom has made more good moves than bad. When I look at the 26 and 40 man rosters of 2020, as well as the farm, back then, I see major progress, whether it showed up in wins or not. It's not excuse making. It's reality. Bloom was not handed a big enough budget to do what you wanted done. He was not told he could trade away many top prospects for instant gratification. Yoiu might wish he had been told that, or maybe you think JH is telling him he can, but he is choosing not to. We both have wildly differing views on what can reasonably been expected to happen given the farm status (only Houck has been added between Devers and Bello/Casas) and the massive budget cuts he had up to the Story signing. That's the reality. It's not a bubble. Had DD been handed Bloom's budget and told not to trade top prospects, you really think we'd be in the WAS, right now? If yes, explain how.

My comment was that DD has never been hired to build up a farm for the longer term outlook. I neve said "trade everything". I mentioned trading away the farm, but that was more about the Sox, and even with the Sox, I have repeatedly said he did not decimate the farm. I should have worded that better. I never set a timeframe with Detroit, but he did trade away many very good prospects for key players later on in Detroit. The point is: team hire DD when they want to win, soon. They don't hire him to build up a farm, so they can win in 4-7 years. He has the okay to spend big and or trade away several top prospects to win NOW or soon. That was not the situation Bloom was hird into, no matter how hard many posters want to think it was. They seem to think it was Bloom's idea to not spend big or trade away key prospects, so we could have been better in 2020, 2021 and even 2022. Maybe, someday that will change. Maybe, if it does, they will hire someone like DD to change course.

That is encouraging and seems like a fair offer... maybe they can get him to take $200M/8.