moonslav59

The extra year should bring down the AAV. $196/7 is probably very close to what he gets, but to me, even my suggested $160M/6 is probably too much, but acceptable. There has to be a top limit, and I think that exceeds it. (I might go $175-180M/7, so that offer is not absurd, to me- not like Saeger's, last winter.)

It's been repeated many times since then. I thought you were the one keeping track of who comes up with the best ideas, first, but I guess it's only the rare ones you stumble upon.

As in trading for a pitcher, right?

0.0 UZR/150 suggests his defense is questionable. Career +0.9 suggests he is not bad.

That's more than I would pay, so if he gets that, I guess he's elsewhere, next year.

True. The always seem to protect less than we think they will, and often protect one we didn't figure they would protect. Who is the last Sox player drafted in Rule 5? Last year, we protected Downs, Bello, Crawford and Wink. Many felt we might protect Ward and or Jimenez.

That's the guy I think we end up with.

When it comes to new spending, it seems that way.

The ones i put in red were just players I thought were close for consideration. I do not think Bonaci, Polito or Santos are protected. Abreu is maybe the closest one not on your list, IMO.

'cept he was first by weeks.

You missed a grand opportunity to talk about yourself in the 3rd person. You are slkipping. BTW, notin stole the Montero idea from you? Whodathunkdat?

Skilful editing on your part, maybe?

I keep hearing this same thing, every October.

I like that idea, and Houck or Whitlock could fill in, if he gets hurt or flails.

Where did I say you did say that? I'm saying nobody is disagreeing with your position that Houck is NOT a lockdown closer. I just added that nobody thinks Houck is a lockdown closer. Man, even when i agree with you, you go off.

Plus $15M for DJ to be the utility guy.

We know your position. I'm not sure anybody is disagreeing. I certainly am not. I don't hear anyone saying he is a "lock down closer."

I wouldn't be surprised, either way, especially when you factor in the team's reluctance to spend big on RP'ers. I just don't think it's a "sure bet" he is already slotted as our closer.

I'm not defending the Yanks not spending like the Dodgers, but they have not for a long time, now.

Looks right. I'd protect Wikelman for 2 reasons. 1. We have plenty of room on the 40 man roster, even if we add 5-6 FAs. 2. He will be added to the 40, at some point, so we should not risk someone taking him. I thought the 26th man of the roster might mean more Rule 5 picks, but that didn't really happen, last year.

Covering all the bases, but you can't trust any poster who started in 2008.

Maybe- emphasis on maybe- Houck can be a reliable lockdown closer, but he has not proved he can, just yet. He may very well be handed the job on day one, though, but it is not a "sure bet," IMO. I like Whitlock better than Houck for the closer role, but I also think Whitlock would make a better starter, so I think that's what he'll be in 2023.

One reason I am not so sure Houck has been annointed the closer, already. We may also go with 2 "relief aces" and mix and match who pitches in the traditional closer, ninth inning role.

So, notin sounded like he thought Houck would be a sure bet good closer, when he added "No prediction on if he loses it…?" I'm not sure how anyone can interpret that as a yes. Again, I think notin is wrong to say Houck will certainly be the closer, but that is all he said.

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