WOO is playing their 17th game, and Hamilton stole his 9th base, tonight. He's 1-2 with a 1.017 OPS.
Abreu & Alfaro are 1-2
RHern homered
Murphy has pitched 2 scoreless, so far.
We are 1.5 games behind a WC slot and have a better run differential (+3) than the two teams between us and that slot:
CLE (-3) 10-9
TOR (-12) 11-8
We are still ahead of HOU, SEA, LAD and SDP.
Most of the pitchers are present, but we did miss a start from Whitlock and Martin is out, now. I'm not sure Paxton being out hurts us, but we'll see. Joely was not supposed to be a major addition, but I expected he'd beat out Ort, Kelly (who is on the 60 with Mills) and Brasier.
If Houck and Whitlock stick as starters, it takes the heat off needing 2 from Sale, Kluber and Paxton to do well. We can likely get by with just one old vet coming through. That is assuming Bello and Pivetta fill their roles.
Wong has started 3 out of 10 games with a RH'd SP'er.
He has started 7 out of 8 with a LH'd SP'er.
He is the only catcher to catch Houck and Whitlock.
The 3 games he started vs RHPs?
1 with Crawford vs PIT
1 with Kluber vs PIT
1 with Sale vs MN
I totally agree, but with this nearly brand new staff and two brand new catchers, a learning curve has to be taking place, as these guys feel each other out.
Maybe some early bad results can set a lasting "tone" than can never be overcome.
More than 1/4th of Wongs PAs with Sox pitchers have been with Houck and Whitlock. McGuire has zero PAs with those two.
It's apples vs watermelons, here, folks.
No playoffs:
85-70 in 1972 (0.5 GB and no playoffs)
89-73 in '72 (2nd)
97-64 in '77 (2nd) 1 game from the 4th best record in MLB
99-63 in '78 (T best record in MLB, but lost play-in game to Bucky Dent)
91-69 in '79 (better than 2 division winners)
89-73 in '82 (same as one div winner)
93-69 in '02 (9th best record in MLB- only 8 teams make it)
Made Playoffs:
Lost 7th game in WS: '67, '75 and '86
89-73 in '88 lost ALCS to OAK 4-0
88-74 in '90 lost ALCS to OAK 4-0
86-58 in '95 lost ALDS to CLE 3-0
92-70 in '98 lost ALDS to CLE 3-1
94-68 in '99 won ALDS 3-2 over CLE/ lost ALCS 4-1 to NYY
95-67 in '03 won ALDS 3-2 OAK/ Lost ALCS to NYY 4-3
Since I started being a Sox fan in 1972...
1972 to 2003:
1 last place (1992)
1 sixth place out of 7 teams (1983)
1 fourth place out of 5 (1994)
5 fifth place out of 7
8 between 3rd and 4th place
16 out of 32 seasons first or second:
11 second places
5 first places
2004 to 2022: 19 seasons
5 last places
0 second to last
4 third places
5 second places, including 2004
5 first places
10 first & second
9 third or fifth
The loss in '78 was rough, too.
There was also a year we finished 1/2 game behind Detroit, due to the unbalanced strike induced schedule, and countless second places, where we had a damn good record, and were maybe a top 4 team in MLB, but with no playoff slot.
No doubt, those seasons were still exciting and fun to watch, but the no rings thing wore at me.
We all see what one great day can do for a hitter in April vs August, or what one bad day can do to a pitcher in April vs August.
Wild swings can occur over one pitch.
The big difference maker in your whole Wong vs McGuire focus is that they have caught pitchers at wildly different sample sizes, and the ones that are somewhat balanced are still too small to consider as noteworthy, but it might convince you to lay off McGuire.
(Please don't assume that because I am posting these numbers, I think these sample sizes are significant enough to even begin to tell a worthwhile story about their skill sets as catchers.)
Somewhat balanced sample sizes:
OPS Against
Crawford
.310 w McGuire (29 PAs)
.891 w Wong (45)
Pivetta
.799 w McGuire (22)
.742 w Wong (42) Close to even
Winckowski
.377 w McGuire (19)
.641 w Wong (36)
Brasier (some pretty tiny sample sizes, here)
.880 w McGuire (30)
.465 w Wong (18)
Kelly (tiny sample sizes)
1.194 w McGuire (19)
.381 w Wong (15)
Schreiber (tiny samples)
.574 w McGuire (16)
.681 w Wong (23)
Bleier
.866 w McGuire (16)
.686 w Wong (18)
Jansen (Tiny SS)
.220 w McGuire (14)
.844 w Wong (10)
Martin (Tiny)
.482 w McGuire (11)
.918 w Wong (18)
Out of Balance
Sale
1.061 w McGuire (64) His most caught pitcher (tied w Kluber)
.430 w Wong (25) His 2nd least caught SP'er
Kluber
1.045 w McGuire (64) Tied for most caught pitcher w Sale
.544 w Wong (19) His least caught SP'er
Ort
.803 Wong (33) Not a big differential, here
.871 w McGuire (13)
One-Way Pitchers - VERY NOTEWORTHY! (No McGuire innings with these two!)
Houck
Zero PAs with McGuire
.728 w Wong (58) His most caught pitcher.
Whitlock
Zero PAs with McGuire
.819 w Wong (44) His third most pitcher caught
Bello (No Wong PAs)
1.289 w McGuire (18)
Zero PAs w Wong
It's easy to see why we shouldn't read anything into the disparity, no matter how grand.
How many pitchers, who have had both catchers catch them do significantly better with Wong vs McGuire?
I count 6 to 5. If you take away the unbalanced, it's 4-3 in McGuire's favor.
I do think it's fair to say that sample sizes over 100 or 200 innings are more significant than 20-30 inning sample sizes.
Some of the sample sizes I posted, earlier are over 300 and 400.
Good sign for Houck.
I've always felt he'd be best taking over Whitlock's role as the high leverage, long man in the pen, but sticking as a starter would be buttah!