moonslav59
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I get how pen building costs less, is usually a safer bet, and shorter commitments, but to me, we have so many pitchers we have used as SP'ers who belong in the pen. We can make our pen one of the best in MLB without adding a single player to our roster, except SP'ers. This pen blows me away: Closer: Jansen Set-Up: Martin RP3: Houck RP4: Whitlock RP5: Crawford RP6: Pivetta RP7: Scheiber RP8: Winckowski/ Bernardino/Joely/Murphy/Walter/Kelly/Robertson Now, I fully realize at least 2 from Houck, Crawford and Pivetta will be in the opening day rotation, and all 3 will likely start a lot of games in 2024, but if we add 2-3 solid SP'ers, we can minimize those starts and maximize their time in the pen. If Sale can start 15+ games in 2024, it would add to t heir pen time, too, but I'm not counting on even 1 start fro Sale in '24. This is likely a pipe dream, and it's only adding 2 SP'ers: SP1: Gray or Urias SP2: Yamamoto SP3: Bello SP4: Houck SP5: Sale/Pivetta/Houck
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The Sale and Bogey extensions notwithstanding, the drop in spending and trading of prospects started right after the trade deadline of 2018, which was about 1.5 years of DD and 4 years of Bloom.
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Lmao. At the time, that money and those years were about the max any RP'er had ever gotten.
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I'd put the odds of Bloom signing Chapman at greater than 1,000:1. My hopes is over 90% of all money spent or prospects traded for are for starting pitchers.
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Of course- same with HS pitchers, but what is the traditional norm? 2-4 for most college draftees? (3-4?) 4-6 for most HS draftees? (5-6 or 5-7?)
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I can't tell what you wrote vs what I wrote. My point was 4-6 years by HS drafted pitchers vs 4-5 by college, but maybe the college numbers should be 3-5 or 3-4. It seems like more took 2-3 years than I imagined.
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Multiply by 2.25 and you are way under Theo's numbers. DD is in a class by himself.
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Counting inflation?
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Napoli was not all that big ($16M x 2), and wasn't Porcello extended under DD?
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Yes, but I do think there was a significant drop in prospects traded and big signings under Ben vs Theo and DD. Ben had more than Bloom, but he is closer to Bloom than Theo and DD.
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Chapman is a better get than bringing back JT or Duvall. I've been talking a lot about trading Dugo, but trading Duran, instead makes more sense for several reasons: 1. He's bring back more, especially as part of a package for a SP'er. 2. Dugo in RF makes our OF D stronger than Duran in LF or CF. 3. Yoshida playing LF vs RHPs instead of Duran is not a huge downgrade on D, and allows Casas to DH more often- maybe improving 1B defense. With an addition of Chapman, trading Duran makes even more sense. 3B: Chapman (Devers) 1B: Devers (Casas) DH: Casas (Yoshida) LF: Yoshida-Refsnyder CF: Duvall-Rafaela RF: Dugo-Duvall (Abreu)
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If our winter spending budget is fixed, every penny you spend on DH and OF, is a penny less spent on the rotation. I'd love to have Turner and Duvall back, but not at the expense of improving the rotation.
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We had the worst or near worst OAA at every infield position.
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It probably wasn't about trading his ass.
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285 + PAs (Duvall's PAs) Fangraphs numbers... Catcher 18th Wong .708 (McGuire did not qualify would be at #T16 at .711 1B 7th Casas at .862 2B none qualified (Reyes would be 18th at .748) 3B 1st Devers .850 SS none qualified or came close LF 7th Duran .828 8th Yoshida .813 CF 1st Duvall .927 9th Duran .828 RF 21st Dugo .790 DH 12th Turner .836
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We don't know where Duvall would be, had he qualified, but he'd be top of the list, too.
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That is not my strong area, nor do I want it to be.
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Other than the Iggy trade, how many significant prospects did Ben trade? Total the Theo prospects traded, the DD prospects traded and then compare to Ben & Bloom. Compare the largest contracts given out to free agents and extensions by Theo and DD vs Ben and Bloom. The team's plans were very different. Ben's plans were very similar to Bloom's as Theo's were to DD's.
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Ben was allowed to spend much of the money saved by the AGon-Beckett-Crawford trade, unlike Bloom after losing Betts and Price, not the Porcello & Kimbrel money lost from the year before.
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Would you say he is close to being a lock at being solid in 2024?
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It makes more sense to DH Yoshida with Casas getting some time there. The idea of moving Devers to 1B and Casas to 1B may be premature, while also forcing Yoshida to play LF full time, except for days Raffy or Casas get rest. I guess he could DH when our 3Bman rests, too as Devers could play 3B on those days and Casas 1B, but that might be just 20-25 games total.
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We'd still have 4 veteran OF'ers: Duvall, Yoshida, Duran and Refsnyder, but there would be ample opportunities for Rafaela and Abreu a chance to win more playing time or even win a full time position, if and only if they earn it..
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My idea does not force any rookie to start.
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He was responding to my idea of trading Dugo, signing Duvall and moving Yoshida to DH and back up LF'er.
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I'm for bringing Duvall back, not JT. I was just responding to the idea of JT taking the option. If JT wants to return to Boston, so badly, he could just ask for a bump up in salary for 1 or 2 years. I see a way to improve our D and make room for some up and coming younger players without costing us a penny. Yoshida should DH with Casas getting some time, there. That could improve 2-3 positions, as it allows Duran to play LF not CF, thereby improving LF, CF and sometimes 1B.
