moonslav59
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Huh? Are you projecting, again? Mocking?
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Apparently, we were supposed to expect that and sign 2 more allstar closers, just in case....
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I thought we had decent SP'er depth, last March. Mediocre but okay on quantity. It turned out Wink was never used in the rotation (thankfully,) and Mata got hurt again (surprise, surprise.) Sale Paxton Kluber Bello Whitlock Houck Pivetta Winckowski Crawford That was 9 with ML experience, then we had... Walter (9th ranked on SPs) Mata (5th ranked on SPs) Murphy (17th ranked in March) (Drohan 13th and Wikelman 14th were viewed as too far away for 2023.) It's not the greatest 11-12, but it was not all that horrible looking on opening day. To me, it looked better than the 2022 rotation on opening day- before we knew Wacha and Hill would do pretty well.
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I know it's unlikely. Hell, I think it's unlikely we add two solid SP'ers. Crawford has a 4.78 ERA as a SP'er, thisa year. It's at 5.44 his last 9 starts. Throw out his first 2 starts and it's at 4.47 in his 20 starts since being added to the rotation for good, back in early June. That's not bad, especially for a first long stretch of starting, but it's no ringing endorsement. I'd prefer he stay in the pen. If we end up with Bello, Houck and Pivetta as our 3-5 SP'ers, we may need several good long relievers in the pen.
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More common sense.
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Like you said, two years ago...
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I think the second reason was to hedge against the pending Bogey bolt.
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All "common sense."
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The poll taken before the 2021 season showed most posters felt we'd win.... 80-83 (4) 75-79 (3) 84-86 (2) 87-89 (1) 90-94 (2) Red must have been one of the 90-94 guys. It's common sense.
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The Rays were the O's many years ago. They tanked to get several top picks, but yes, they have figured out a way to maintain a strong farm and big club long after the tanking effect. The O's have yet to prove they can do that. Some teams, like the Braves look awesome, now, but their farm has tumbled in the rankings, so it will be interesting to see what they look like when all these studs reach free agency and some become the next departing Freddie Freeman. How long can they keep it up? The Astros have been losing some big stars for years and no longer have a stud farm. Is this season's swoon a sign that it is catching up with them, or was it just all the rotation injuries? We'll see.
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Yes, that is one reason they chose those paths. I'm thinking about going forward. I would try like hell to make sure Whitlock never starts another game for us. I try to make sure Houck and Crawford don't, either, but using one as an emergency starter seems logical (not both.)
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Yes, I was confusing this with comp pick drops. My bad.
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That's your view of life. I don't need fall guys every time things go wrong. There are many teams trying to win. Not all can do it. It doesn't mean the ones who miss were mismanaged or coached. It might, but it's not a given, IMO. Cora may be fired, but maybe only to be promoted.
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The fact is, we didn't have these guys, before 2023 in the pen. Ripping them away from the pen, so they can fail as SP'ers was not the right idea. I admit, I thought Whitlock had the make-up to be a SP'er, but once he had hip surgery, he should not have been pushed to start. (I do not think making him a SP'er in 2022 caused the injury, like some seem to think.) Houck was a decent SP'er to start his career. I can see why he was given another chance. My point is, we know, now, but still continue the practice.
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Common sense said we would suck in 2021.
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It's human nature. To me, trying to find one fall guy seems to be in overkill mode, in recent years.
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I remember a lot of posters being pissed that we were "sitting on our hands" and watching FAs were were interested in, sign elsewhere.
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Yes, I said that, too. Has HRam and Porcello has the seasons they had the year after he left in his final season, he might have lasted another year, or two. A lot has to do with timing. Had he timed the Springs addition to the year he "took off...." Had he signed Martin Perez a year later... I'm sure all GMs have cases like this. A lot of luck and timing goes into success and failure. That's kind of my point, but ultimately, it's all the GMs fault.
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Yes, it came out of LF. Agreed. I do think the fans were antsy about so few big names being added to the roster since Nate in the summer of '18. Just my opinion.
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They haven't missed Friedman, Click or Maddon, either. This does show it can be an entire organization thing, more than one or two guys, yet blaming one or two guys seems to be the "in thing," these days.
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The common denominator for the O's and Rays has been just how much their farms have bolstered their rosters. Suspects turned into gems. The O's have added almost nobody from outside the system- well a couple, maybe. The Rays have made key trades and signings, but they would not be close to the winning team they are without their farm. Name consistent winning teams that don't have one or both of these: 1. A strong farm (or had one before now) 2. Spend money or master trades.
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If he had hit all those ground balls vs the Sox infield D all season, he'd be leading the league in BA and OBP.
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Pure genius!
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Agreed, and I said the same thing about last year's team that supposedly had veteran leadership in JD, Bogey, Nate, Vaz and others.
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Didn't we drop in the draft due to going over the tax line? Why wouldn't the Mets? Is there a Mets exception to the rule?
