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No, it doesn't. His 1.2M will be replaced by $720K, min. That's less than $500K saved.

Bauer and Clevinger would still keep their budget less than 2023's.

Monty.

2020-2023 as SP only: 5.66 Winckowski 5.05 Crawford 4.76 Whitlock 4.51 Pivetta 4.39 Bello 4.17 Houck xFIP 4.62 Wink 4.37 Crawford 4.17 Pivetta 3.97 Bello 3.78 Whitlock 3.76 Houck

Crawford did fine as a SP'er, last season, but Houck did fine as a SP'er over 3 seasons: OPS Against as SP: .663 in 4 GS (17 IP) '22 .627 in 13 GS (59 IP) '21 .443 in 3 GS (17 IP) '20 '20-'22 as SP: 3.22 ERA (72 ERA- ranks 23rd out of 215 SP'ers) 3.39 xFIP (25th in MLB out of 215 pitchers with 90+ IP)

With Schreiber gone, we have an open slot of the 40. I wonder, if a signing or trade is pending. Here is how I see the opening day 13 man staff, as of right now: S1: Giolito S2: Bello S3: Pivetta S4: Crawford S5: Houck CL: Jansen R2: Martin R3: Whitlock R4: Winckowski R5: Bernardino R6: Campbell R7: Slaten (Rule 5 restrictions) R8: Mata (out of options) Minor League depth: SP: Fitts, Walter, Murphy, Gambrell (Wikelman) RP: Criswell, Weissert, Guerrero, Kelly, German (Hoppe, Benitez, Olivares) We really need to add a solid SP'er.

Our rotation sucks: that's why, but I agree: Whit & Wink should be 100% pen arms. I wish Houck and Crawford were, too, but someone has to start.

This waiting game on Snell, Monty and Bellinger is getting crazy.

It will be interesting to see where soxprospects,com slots Sandlin. He turns 23, soon and was in A and A+ ball, last season.

He's making $1.2M, this year, which is less than $500K more than min wage. If this was about money, we are in bigger trouble than I thought. It does make it easier for Slaten and or Mata to make the opening day 26 man roster, or Campbell, Criswell, Weissert...

It's hard to place a number of value of a player almost all of the speculation nature. Schreiber was a damn good pitcher in '22. He was injured and was much worse in 2023, but one could argue he has proven what his "upside" is. I'm not sure what to think of this trade, just yet. I liked Schreiber. He was not costly, either. I guess we have to build the farm pitching up, so that is the upside of this deal. The draft is a ways away, and the results of our next drafts will not be realized for years. This is one way to try and jump start the process. Brez traded a couple pitching prospects for O'Neill, and lost some to Rule 5, but I'm guessing they were not "his types." He's added a lot of you pitchers and prospects: Fitts Slaten Sandin Campbell Criswell Weissert Oliveras Benitez Judice

Yes. I'd only trade prospects, now if it is for a young pitcher with 4+ years of gteam control. Even then, it might be better to wait, until we start trying, again.

Exactly. Their "image" is tanking, by the minute. There would be some push back after a Bauer signing, but at least many would feel like they are at least trying to win, within the confines of the Scrooge budget.

If the trade is for someone under team control for more years than the rebuild takes, maybe.

He is better utilized at 2B.

LOL! Funny!

His defense was so awful, too, so I think that was part of the criticism, but yes, some were going overboard. Someone even wanted him demoted.

As long as we are not trying to actively win, I agree.

Just anecdotal evidence, here, but it seemed like Casas was getting squeezed by ball & strike calls in April.

I was only talking about peaking, defensively after age 28. When you factor in dWAR or DRS per innings at catcher, I'm not so sure all your "no" designations are correct. Plus, many of these metrics do not count how well veteran catchers get the best out of their staffs. Just looking at a few dWAR stats for some on your list: D Ross: best dWAR was at age 39, 2nd best 32, 3rd best 38, 4th best 30, and all top 10 were at ages 29 and older. IRod's top 4 dWARs were all under 28, but he did have a dWAR or 1.8 at age 29, in year where he played in 30-40 less games. His 1.6 at age 36 was in just 82 games, and would have been top 3, pro-rated. Tony Pena's top 4 were at ages 27, 28, 25 and 29, and 5 of his top 8 dWARs were at 28 or older. His 0.7 at age 39 in just 67 games would pro-rate to top 4-5, career. Alomar: 5 of his top 6 dWAR seasons were at 28 or older. Posada sucked on D, but 7 of his top 8 were 28 or older. The other was at age 27. I only checked these guys.

DHern had such a low H/9 (7.9 MLB, but was 7.0 from '19-'21 and 6.6 from '20-'21) and high K/9 (14.0/9 is one of the best in MLB history for pitchers with 80+ career IP.) AAA (78 IP) 5.2 H/9!!!!! 12.5 K/9 7.2 BB/9

Agreed, but when you know a few teams are talking to him, offering min. wage is not the best strategy to make sure you get him.

There is a good chance one of our top 3 prospects won't come near expectations- maybe even 2. There's a better chance 1-2 of the next 3 ranked prospects don't. Maybe just 1-2 of the next 6 might help in some way. It's hard to know which ones will, and which ones won't. I like Anthony and Teel the most, but I'm also pretty high on Abreu, Rafaela and Cespedes. I might be lower than others on Mayer, Yorke and our two top 10 pitchers: Wikelman and Perales. Bleis seems like the hardest to gauge. With so many recent prospect graduations and the addition of some 5+ year control youngsters like Grissom, Campbell and Slaten, I am pretty optimistic about just about every part of the future of this team, except SP'er. Years of control (only 2+ yrs listed) C: 5+ Teel, 5 Wong (%+ Joh Garcia, Hickey, Brannon) 1B: 5 Casas, 4 Dalbec (5+ Jordan, Kavadas) 2B: 5+ Grissom, (Story?) EValdez, Yorke, Alacantara, 4 Reyes SS: 4 Story, 5+ Mayer, Cespedes, Zanetello, Romero, DHam 3B: 10 Devers, 5+ Meirdroth, A Anderson LF: 5 Duran, 5+ Castro, Rosier, Paulino CF: 5+ Rafaela, Anthony, Bleis RF: 5+ Abreu DH: 4 Yoshida SP: 5 Bello, _____, ______, ______, Walter, Murphy, Fitts 5+ Wikelman, Perales, Gambrell, Monegro, Dobbins, E R-C, Bastardo, Rogers, I Coffey RP: 5 Crawford, Winckowski, Bernardino, Campbell, 4 Houck, Whitlock, 3 Schreiber 5+= Slaten, Mata, Kelly, Guerrero, Hoppe. Troye, Criswell

The article said some teams were interested.

His major concern. 10.0 BB/9 in 27 IP in 2023 5.0 BB/9 in '22 (83 IP) 3.6 in '21 (105 IP) He's trending the wrong way! Slaten: 4.54 BB/9 career. 3.02 in '23 (60 IP) 8.36 in '22 (52 IP) 3.39 in '21 as a SP in 82 IP Looks to be trending in the right direction. These guys remind me of DHern. 7.7 BB/9 career in MLB in 85 IP 7.2 in AAA (78 IP) 7.4 in AA (46 IP)