cp176
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You obviously want to argue. I never said that you said that it is all about range even though it did seem as though you were placing more emphasis on range than i think it deserves. I have no clue where you got your numbers from. i'll take that guy as I have said before who makes all of the routine plays and gets to 100 more balls than the rest can every day. My point is and will not change that i value consistent infield play and that often times even though it looks fantastic the guy who can make the great play gets more credit than he who is consistent on a daily basis.
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I personally don't care for these types of examples. Using embellished data to prove hypothetical points doesn't work for me. Kind of obvious I think that some shortstops have better range than others and some make more plays than others. Once again, I value consistency very much. I can live with a ss with average range who makes the plays hit in his range on a regular basis. There are also plenty of players I guess who look good because they get to balls others can't but still prove to be average fielders. It is not all about range. In all honesty, I believe in the use of whatever is available to make a team better with respect to data but an overuse makes the game cumbersome and much less interesting to me.
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Hmm - who would argue this? A guy that makes all of the routine plays but his range allows him to get to !00 more balls 80 of which he makes plays on. Yup - I'd take that every day. Who is he? Maybe you misunderstood me. I wasn't saying that I valued a fat flat footed shortstop very highly even if he made every play hit right at him.. Most have some range, some have more range than others. I value consistent play in the field very much. Acrobatics really don't turn me on particularly. You are saying that many shortstops today have outstanding range and make all of the plays they should make as well? I'm glad you see it that way. Oh and by the way this has 0 to do with Jeter who by the way I'm pretty sure was one helluva ball player.
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Cherrington leading candidate for Pirates Job
cp176 replied to Elktonnick's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
If Cherington wants this job, I hope that he gets it. He was a dedicated member of the red sox team. My personal feelings about his specific moves are meaningless. I wish him the best. I hope that he discovers the next Roberto Clemente. -
There really is something to be said for players who consistently make the plays that they should make. Too many people fall in love with the athleticism of the guy who can get to every ball and on occasion can make the great great play. if you had to choose, I would take the consistency every day without question.
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Now we are talking! Don Buddin was the first Red Sox shortstop that I remember playing. You are correct as well.
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Like all of us, i would love to see Mookie stay in Boston forever but a ten year 300 million dollar contract I'm not sure makes any sense. How have the teams made out who have offered these huge sums of money to one player? We are all replaceable.
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ditto!
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What - you don't like being treated like one of "my" students? As a teacher, I always felt pretty good when my students asked and answered their own questions. It tended to eliminate any personal bias coming from the front of the room.
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JD became one of my favorite players quickly. A team player - pays attention greatly to detail - has become one of the best hitters of his era. His is a good story. One team gives up on him and the next thing you know, here he is, a hitter that remade himself. His was a great sign. His bat in the middle of that order has made an incredible difference. Hope he remains with us but if he goes, i hope that he continues to rip that ball regardless of who he winds up with.
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lol! I'm betting many other words have been used as well.
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A very good answer!
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This is good. i'll give credit where it is deserved. I'll come up with something for you soon.
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yup - I'm pulling for him to keep building upon our most recent success. Hope he makes decisions that continue to improve us going forward.
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Interesting. My responses about Chaim have more to do with what I have recently read as well as what the rays have done. I really don't know much about him. I suspect much of the "I love this hire" has as much to do with some just not agreeing with the way DD put our current team together. It's human nature to like anyone who happens to agree with you and your own personal views. I'll give any GM the benefit of the doubt but I don't get to excited about any individual who doesn't actually play the game.
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hey Slasher now even I (an old school, anti-analytics, and all anything new with respect to everything kind of guy) will give you a hearty helluva post of the day for your : III) cold shoulder, wifey, check book stuff! the rest of course is nonsense but hey you can't have everything. LOL You know me by now Slasher!
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Agree
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I like him as well. I hope that he does a great job. The anti-Dombrowski comment certainly wasn't necessary.
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I don't disagree with you. You obviously think that I do and that is ok. I should have been more specific I guess like maybe - It sounds like there are people here who think that JH will be content with an inferior product on the field and might be willing to accept the idea that people think that it is ok for us to not be competitive for a few years because of all the good stuff that lies ahead. That is indeed absurd. He knows exactly what he is doing and he wants people to fill those seats. Salaries in general are out of control. I really don't think that thinking a team spending big is going to necessarily play big is accurate thinking in today's world. you don't always get what you pay for. I'll reiterate, I like the Bloom hire and wish him well. he looks like a good one. Do you really think that even though I might have said as much that i don't understand what a reset is?
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Obviously something different is going to happen. It should be very positive. I'm not sure though who you are referring to as "most fans". If you think that they all were DD haters at the end, i think that you would be quite surprised. I'm not sure that I really understand the concept of a reset but I do not for one second think that John Henry isn't going to do what he can right now to keep the fan base in the seats. People still want to see their team win now. Expecting fans to wait for a few years I don't think is likely to go over very well.
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I like the choice of words - decimate. What I would say is that we got Sale for Moncada and Kopech(?). Now with the rest of the decimation there are many people who did not blink an eye at trading the rest of the pieces traded - players that very well might never have played for our team. Stockpiling them had been tried and did no good. Now the people that are fans with whom I communicate were not nearly as unhappy as some of the members of this forum with DD's work. People are entitled to their own opinions but theirs' are as valuable as the ones posted by anyone who posts here. With that all being said, I'm happy that everyone is so upbeat about the latest hiring. he looks good and I once again will support our current GM as avidly as I have the rest.
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There have been many reasonable and well thought out posts in this thread. Yours usually are top shelf! I'm sure that no GM is without his or her weaknesses as well as strengths. Many of my comments I guess are reactions to the few posters who seem to sound as though they know exactly what this team needs and needs to do to become successful. Dombrowski is and has been a marvelous scapegoat for them because they did not like his methods. His era is over and it is time to throw support behind our new leadership. I do not know what JH plans with respect to his budget but I do think that you have to be somewhat on the soft side if you think that he is in any way likely to make moves at the expense of winning in both the short and long term. He is not the type of owner who will risk losing fans while saying that we just have to patient for a few years.
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I agree with you for the most part but I think unfortunately that too many people want to find a villain for everything that went wrong for us this year. it appears that Dombrowski was chosen to fill that role. There is usually more than one way to get a job done. If our pitching had remained healthy, we all might be singing a different tune. There are too many people here who regardless of what they say, did not like the initial hiring of DD because of an infatuation for whatever reason with Ben Cherington. If, once again, the pitching staff had remained healthy there is reason to think that the future still held great promise. Once again, I think that the hiring of Bloom looks good but I really do think that there is too much emphasis here on the job of the GM. Our players need to play better.
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This is a sensible post. I hope and do think that the hire looks like a good one but to some here it would appear that our savior has finally been hired. he doesn't pitch nor does he play the field and i don't think that he will be doing much for us at the plate either. Personally, i will not be happy if the team that is put together on the field next year is not a competitive team. I don't think that I am alone in feeling this way. I am a supporter of any GM that gets hired by the Sox, but a GM hire does not give me the case of the quivers. I hope though that this guy works a little magic for us. He has the resources available as well as the players to at least allow us to field a successful team that has a chance to win every time they take the field.
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Am i proud of the fact that I often think as you do? ll