cp176
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I understand and when you are the very best at something I guess that you should be paid.
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Isn't that just the way.
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Hey - are you calling me uncommon? LOL Allen who? I'm just kidding. I really do not mind supporting an opinion that is not common to this forum since i consider myself rather common.
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Thanks for posting this. If JH was holding the line on ticket costs or possibly even lowering them, it would be a lemon that could be swallowed I guess. If things proceed as the media spins it or how some on here think that it might turn out, personally i will continue to watch but there is no way I would go near that ballpark for the "experience". Doesn't go along with my philosophy of getting what you pay for. I don't mind and overpay if the product is solid. We all know right that the Sox have a budget. We just have to trade that once in a generation talent likely because of that damned budget! lol Plain speak and plain logic works for quite a few folks.
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I think that you are 100% correct. What we willingly pay for entertainment in this country is joke like. As sports salaries continue to sky rocket all I hear being shoved down my throat is the growing divide between the haves and the have nots. No one seems to complain much about elite salaries and now we certainly don't want to see JH to have to pay any of that luxury tax. LOL It is a fact that in this world the rich tend to get richer but not often with this type of blessing from the public.
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So this is what that says to me - fans will be paying more to have a really good experience again in a few years? I understand that it is about making money but that spin doesn't work for me. Paying forward for the future works well I guess for a college scholarship fund but when it comes to my favorite sports teams not so much. I want to at least see some evidence that this year's team is poised to make a run if I'm paying more for a product. In what world does anyone knowingly pay more for less? I will gladly pay more for my "new" rusty car if you promise to repair it for me in a few!
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There are obviously people posting here who do an incredible job digging up data with respect to all things Red Sox. I wonder if anyone can suggest to me how much money the franchise will either make or lose by going over the luxury tax limit. In terms of future value, I think that the consensus is that the franchise is worth a whole lot more now than when JH purchased it. Are they making money or not?
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We all agreed? The group here who thinks alike might have. lol I could see that data for the rest of time but there is no way that I would agree that those deals were overpays. It might be a different point of view but there you go!
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Price is the Huckleberry bank on it .
cp176 replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
So this is for you notin since this is what you tend to do. You obviously are saying that we will be highly competitive this coming year and for the foreseeable future. I like that . Good one. It is annoying and my head is totally above ground. -
Price is the Huckleberry bank on it .
cp176 replied to Swiharts Ghost's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
All of the arguments that I have read here for the Red Sox need to get under the luxury tax limit really fall on my deaf ears. The suggestion that we need to save that money and that it will possibly allow us to build up our farm so that we will be highly competitive soon possibly what in 3,4, or 5 years maybe, just doesn't work once again for me. I truly believe that any suggestion that it is necessary for John Henry to stay below that limit for whatever reason really is just a little hollow. I'll predict that if any moves are made that are seen as hurting this team's chances this coming year of competing at a high level, the cost will hurt with respect to ticket sales. Major league attendance is down and downsizing one of the most successful franchises in the history of the game isn't going to help. Spin the spin any way you want but there still are people out there who won't go to Fenway just for the opportunity to sit in one of those crappy little seats if the team isn't winning. -
A very true statement. i very much like the fact that there are opposing points of view to consider.
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Absolutely!
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here is where a guy like me gets into the "Who gives a s***" mode? Maybe if we keep beating on the past GM's (most of whom I can't remember) some people will forget about the present. it is so much fun to hammer down on all that has happened in the past. Whatever the new guy's name is maybe he is thinking that he will get at least a year of two of free passes due to all of the absolutely incompetent work done by his predecessors.
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oh Nick - you know not what you have done.
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think I made a little posting error here Nick - meant for my friend Slasher.
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The only thing that this will get you Slasher is another atta boy - you are my hero - post of the day comment. lol
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When that event happened, i was as disappointed probably as much as I could have been. I could not believe it but I not for one minute ever game any blame to Billy Buck. I wish that he had made it but if not for him, much like I feel about Mookie we would not have even been in that game. he had had a hell of a season.
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Slasher - would the Sox have won in '86 if Stapleton had replaced Billy Buck? It certainly would have been the right move to make i think, but no one knows whether or not we would have won.
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I cannot answer the unanswerable question Slash. Who knows - As for the Mookie Nomar controversy, as good as Nomar was in his prime, I'm still taking Mookie. Better in every facet of the game. it is all good though. We are fortunate to have seen them both.
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Hey - I see that CLIFF word right there.
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I loved the young Nomar and at the plate what wasn't there to love. he came along when we needed a star. Honestly though, I never saw him as a great fielder. he could get to balls and often times made the what looked to be impossible play. The but is that for me, it seemed like the routine groundball seemed to cause him more trouble than it should have. Like Cabrerra or not he gave us consistent play at the ss position. I still think that comparing Nomar to Mookie is nuts. In all aspects of the game Mookie seems to be ahead of him. Betts is on a different level not to mention that he still has youth on his side.
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Nomar wasn't
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you beat me to the punch. I agree with you . Betts may be traded for sure but he could be forever seen as the second most important one to get away. He could be that good. Obviously the Babe being number 1.
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Personal opinion of course once again but I don't think the two players really are comparable regardless of what the stats show. Nomar was one helluva baseball player for sure not so much as he aged. Betts very well might be one of the very best we have seen in Boston. he is young and has started a Hall of fame like career. In my mind there is a big difference between the two. Nomar was very very good when he was young and healthy, Betts is arguably the second best player in the game today at a pretty young age. After Mike Trout, i'm guessing that Mookie is the next guy up.
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