What are you saying notin? Come on now, I don't remember mentioning the Clemens trade. Also are you trying to imply that I don't realize that Betts has one more year to go? You have absolutely no idea what my logic is. Oh and thanks for putting words in my mouth which I did not intend to say. What I said was that trading away Betts for next to nothing in return, without making a really strong effort to sign him, will not be looked upon favorably by many fans no matter how it is spun. They (we) do not see things the way you and a couple of other posters see see things. Just a different perspective than yours.