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  1. cp176
    Jh is a torn man and regardless of how much discussion there is here about the financial ramifications and obligations of the billion dollar franchise budget, most of the people - the actual people - who love and follow the game could likely give one sweet s*** about going over the luxury tax and all that comes with it. It does not make them less educated either. Ultimately it is about who is going to be playing in the Red Sox uniform. Letting Mookie Betts go for anything less than a haul of bluechip prospects is ridiculous. He is a generational talent - the franchise can afford to pay him. I would also say that if they allow him to walk with expectations of signing him during the next off season - I don't think so. Once he is gone, he'll be gone for good. Like it or not, our ownership has to be concerned about the effect this putrid deal will have on its fan base.
  2. cp176
    me too
  3. cp176
    I think that it is obviously safe to say that for anyone who sees regression as being positive there likely will be just as many who see it as a simple step backwards regardless of the spin attached.
  4. cp176
    There is truth to this and it breaks my heart. I am definitely losing interest in a game that I grew up loving because of the players on the field. The more I hear about how times are changing and you either need to go along with the changes or get out of the madness I tend to lean more toward doing the latter. Also, as ticket prices go up, and the guy who lives in the rural town that I live in cannot afford to take his family to a game in Boston, we can keep on comforting him by saying that it is ok - bright future right on the horizon. The truth of the matter is for me that if this trade goes through, I would have much preferred to have one more year to watch Betts in Boston as opposed to trading him for what we got not to mention the fact that Price can still pitch.
  5. cp176
    You miserable ... (I'm actually kind of glad that you do this. You would fit quite nicely down here with the rest of my knucleheaded friends.)
  6. cp176
    Did they by any chance send out a flyer suggesting that even though ticket prices are going up, it's all good because in reality people spending the money to attend games today will have a much brighter future to look forward to? Doesn't sound like the type of speculative investment any sound billionaire would make. lol
  7. cp176
    I'm glad that you brought this up seriously. It is a confusing time that we live in. I'm not a billionaire so in all honesty I do not care how John henry spends his money. I think that it would be a little silly to suggest that I know anything about his budget or how he should spend his money. Society tends to bitch profusely about people with great wealth but the entertainment industry seems to get a free pass. I wonder how many people here know from experience how a billionaire or for that matter a multi millionaire views their budget? Henry has been an excellent owner for our franchise but I think that pretending to know what his Red Sox budget might be is silly. i will miss Mookie Betts fro sure. What we got for him in trade is a joke.
  8. cp176
    You are so right about those ticket prices and the fans. I'm a disturbed disgruntled fan right now. it is the players on the field that matter to me. Giving away a future Hall of Famer for likely very little in return, does it for me. I would be curious to know if there are any others seeing things as I do. I have no interest in paying the price to visit Fenway again. This is usually where someone says that I'm whining or not looking at things correctly. Possibly true I guess but there you go.
  9. cp176
    I am glad that you and others feel that the right moves have been made and that you continue to be positive. I believe absolutely that it is an embarrassment for one of the wealthiest franchises and enterprises in general in the sports world today to make a move like this. I don't know what they should or could have done but but this particular deal is sickeningly one sided and a kick in the ass to Sox fans who pony up the money doing their part to support our billionaire owner and add to his coffers at their expense. Bloom did what he was instructed to do. He did his job.
  10. cp176
    This trade if you want to call it that is an absolute embarrassment for this franchise. I really have nothing else. It has become too much about money for me. I hope they continue to fill those cramped nasty little seats. Normally the expression you get what you pay for applies fairly well - not in this case.
  11. cp176
    Makes me want to get all pumped up to watch them - NOT. I have no interest in watching them if what you are professing is actually going to happen. Every year that I have watched them since 1955, regardless of how bad they have been, I have always been led to believe that there in fact is a chance. I have believed it too. It is that belief that is important to me. Our ownership team has stated that their number one goal is to put a team out on the field this year that will be competitive. This in no way sounds to me that they have raised the white flag and are going all in on the future rebuild that many of you here have emphasized has to happen for so long now. Guess we get to see what happens.
  12. cp176
    Just read henry's comments myself. I'm not surprised at all. There is no way in hell that he would let this team flounder for a season hoping that it will provide a brighter future. He is the owner and I think he gets it. Chaim wasn't brought in to do what most of our prolific posters here felt was the inevitable. I feel better than I have in months about this years team.
  13. cp176
    Harper = Betts - hm
  14. cp176
    Letting a player like Betts go, would clearly be a money move. Moving Price, the same whether you like him or not. Having a competitive team under those conditions would be very unlikely and very costly. if the team lets a potential generational talent go and replaces him with prospects who don't immediately produce, I would bet that the seats at Fenway would become a lot cheaper. The concept of resetting, restocking, or whatever, while appealing to some obviously, will not fly with many. it might be the right thing to do but it will be a very tough sell to the people paying to go to the games.
  15. cp176
    He has been fairly successful where he has been so I'm going with the fact that he knew exactly what he was getting into when he signed on the bottom line. Pretty sure that he understands that real success is dealing positively with the challenges that you face. Been a lot of doom and gloom projected here by some who know more about the current financial situation of this team than i do for sure but this guy has bought in to what is a dream job for most. I'm not the least bit concerned at present. That feeling could change for sure but I don't think that his primary focus is on where we are apt to be in 5 years as opposed to where we will be in 5 months.
  16. cp176
    I just don't think that they wanted to pay the 4M for the guy. I'm going to stick with the concept that if they had really wanted him and saw a primary need for him, he would be in a Sox uni this year. In particular, them not signing him tells me 0 about what their budget thoughts might or might not be.
  17. cp176
    Just saying that maybe they realized that spending much at all for Travis Shaw wasn't in the team's best interests. Losing casual fans, as you like to call them, in any size quantity at all will hurt significantly. No one really likes to be called a casual fan I'm guessing but I don't know what the definition of a real fan as opposed to a casual fan might be. Do you think that the staggering number of "fans" posting here are representative of real fans - the folks who watch, listen, breathe, sleep Red Sox never missing an inning are the real fans of the team? I think that likely there are a huge number of fans like me kicking around who continue to want to see this year's team be in the hunt as opposed to setting a primary goal of getting below the luxury tax limit enabling us to be competitive in a guessing game future.
  18. cp176
    If your statement is absolutely correct and that getting under the luxury tax limit has become the primary focus of this management group and not attempting to first put a competetive team on the field for 2020, they will lose fans. You likely think that a statement like this indicates that I want to spend more of Henry's money - that would be incorrect. I simply do not want to see any trade that is a ridiculous give away of talent such as the likes of many proposed here, to only justify getting below a certain dollar spent limit.
  19. cp176
    Rock hard in your rocker. Throw it toward the window. Sox pitching staff comes back healthy as is we very well might be a playoff team.
  20. cp176
    There really are multiple ways of looking at things aren't there. If Pedroia had not been injured, I'm willing to bet that we would not be missing Dubon much. I wonder if anyone really felt that JBJ wouldn't be able to be a consistent hitter and play cf for us for many years to come. Personally I actually felt that Sandoval was going to be able to help just a little as well. As for the pitching staff, I never would have predicted that the injury bug would have hit us the way it did. Moncada is still the only one on the list that might be truly missed.
  21. cp176
    I know. I agree. But I can't remember the last bar I was in that rational decisions were being made!
  22. cp176
    Kill me with hind sight.
  23. cp176
    if Pedro Martinez had looked me in the eye and said I got this guy - just one more, only a complete idiot would have taken him out of the game. Hind sight really sucks doesn't it. Pedro was good enough. Everybody at a bar likely would have taken him out, especially right after so to speak.
  24. cp176
    Well how about we go with this one - all things that have been suggested - We trade Price, Eovaldi, Betts, and Martinez for Marty Mcknocsnotz and two of his buddies. We (including JH) will be all set up for the future as long as we pick all of the right draft choices (we know how well they all work out). In the mean time we can go with every journeyman pro that is out there because clearly if you throw enough s*** at the wall something is bound to stick. On second thought - we have no chance - the future is hopeless - damn Dombrowski! I can swing that way to.
  25. cp176
    As bright as some of you would like to sound with respect to what John Henry wants to do with payroll and why he fired this one and that one and on and on, unless you are a part of his direct team you really are just guessing. Even the deluge of information that you have found to support your beliefs, bottom line you don't know what is likely to happen. As much as many of you would like to see this team go into rebuild mode, you don't know whether or not that is what is going to happen. This is where I have been asked to state what I think is likely to happen, I can honestly say that I have no clue. I think that it is as likely that JH sells the team as it is that he chooses to go full rebuild.
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