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  1. cp176
    It's not a direct quote, but Mr. James himself would tell us that stats tell us who has been good not who will be good. Useful yes and end all of course not. Over and out on this one for me 700. I don't think that I would have anything in common with someone who couldn't see the value of personal evaluation. I am pretty sure that a very good case could be made with respect to overuse of technology in general and what negative effects it has had on society today.
  2. cp176
    Almost anyway right. I'm am sure that the use of collected compiled technical data has helped every team in both leagues to a certain extent.
  3. cp176
    That does not make me happy. Kind of grew up watching him. Pretty sure that he was battling leukemia - I think that he had been for a while. Sad news.
  4. cp176
    Come on Spiball, did you play stratomatic baseball like I did? We used to also play corkball as well.
  5. cp176
    I am a believer. Thanks for that post!
  6. cp176
    save $ - stay home - play stratomatic baseball
  7. cp176
    What do you think Elktonnick - Is there even an argument here? All of us seem to agree that it takes more than one tool to evaluate players. I think that I am on your wavelength here. If anyone today relies solely on just watching and using their instincts to evaluate, I am afraid they would be missing out on some talented players. On the other hand, if technological statistics were they only source of evaluation, I would not be a fan of the game. I'll admit it, i am a traditionalist. That to me is what baseball is all about - it never bores me.
  8. cp176
    Absolutely!!! To many coaches, those intangible things are as important as any stat you will ever see. Once again- I am sure everyone agrees that there is room for both. Too much of a reliance on either would not tell a very complete picture.
  9. cp176
    Your posts entertain me. They are great.
  10. cp176
    My guess = both. There are a lot of people relying solely on stats who have never played, coached, been on a field, or even worked with a team. I would not trust their opinions as evaluators. I also think that before long term contracts are offered, Knowing what goes on inside a person is extremely important. There might be a lot there worth knowing that the stats don't tell. Actually I am sure that there would be a great deal worth knowing that the stats don't tell. I would hate to have to pick just one evaluation tool to use.
  11. cp176
    should have added Pal, Spitball, ortiz, spud , all good reads
  12. cp176
    I would never question that you enjoy all aspects of the game. I hope that from my posts, you did not get that impression . I am fairly familiar with Bill James and his study of sabermetrics. I certainly don't think that it is an either or situation. I think that a fairer question might be who has the better assessment - the person who relies solely on statistical analysis or the person who has been on the field and has lived the game. I don't think that there is right answer to that question. The best baseball people i know, believe in both used together. On this board, the people whose opinions I value the most such as yours, 700"s, Freds and numerous others certainly see the value in both.
  13. cp176
    thanks Fred- I think thanks (I don't want you hunting me down). I love statistics but I will never accept that they tell the whole story. You have been in the arena and fought the fight yourself - you know what I mean. I say use all the available tools I am truly not sure that I would love this great game if every decision I have made was dictated by what the statistics said to do. A player like Pedroia has fought what the stats have said about him for his entire career.
  14. cp176
    I think that Bill James has done a great job and provided many useful tools for evaluators to use to help them make appropriate decisions. His work is filled with quality and provides much solid information. Used in combination with all of the other aspects of evaluating the game some of which are intangible you might develop a picture of success. I'm glad that he has done some helpful work for the Sox but personally if I spent too much time studying what he has written I might not enjoy the game as much as I do. I love the sounds, smells, the feel of the game that you don't get from his statistics. For some , who really know nothing about the actual game and the way it is played his work provides an avenue for them to get involved and be educated. That's a good thing. You have a point- so does 700 - equally important to me.
  15. cp176
    Ok - I think that makes sense to me. I interpret what you are saying to mean that against teams you are clearly better than, you will win more games - make sense. You will tend to have closer games with teams of more equal ability. If you win more than half of the games played against equally talented opponents you've done well.
  16. cp176
    The bait is in the water - chum line is set. Come on!
  17. cp176
    The old notion that you learn more from losing than you do from winning is relative. The only thing we ever learned was how much we hated to lose. It always was a motivator that made us better. I will not discount the impact or role that luck plays in close games but it is amazing - the harder you work and the better your preparation the better your luck. Maybe the terminology should be different but good teams win more close games than bad teams obviously. Confidence plays a huge role and confidence does seem to create more luck.
  18. cp176
    Kimmi - Hope you don't think that I was being critical of your support of the front office.I would not criticize you. Might not always agree but would not criticize. You are a good poster who clearly knows the game. I support them as well. What I did learn as a coach is that if you do it long enough you probably will experience both the top and bottom rungs of the ladder. Sometimes in spite of what you do or don't do. Luck has to play a roll. When we were real good, people thought I was a genius and when we were bad my family had to hear some things I didn't want them to hear. I was the same guy. Most of the time you do help to make your own luck for sure. But sometimes you just sit back and say how could that possibly have happened.
  19. cp176
    I truly will and do give him credit. Genius - not quite yet. Maybe some day I hope and I think that it is great that he has supporters like you. I support him as well but am not quite ready to call his moves genius moves.
  20. cp176
    I am absolutely sure that you would like that. One thing I like about you even though I don't know you is that you are genuine. I'm pretty sure that you don't hide behind the computer. Say what you mean what you say - a little bit of a dieing breed. I like that.
  21. cp176
    Nope - toss and turn - wake up - go back to sleep- crawl out usually 5:45. Should be in Florida but I am not for numerous reasons. Life sucks but it really doesn't . one of those kind of guys. The officially retired Male.
  22. cp176
    If you ever thought that you might be taking a trip up here, we could talk. Be fun to meet you.
  23. cp176
    Yes you do have me by a few years age wise but it is a very unique thing this age. I don't feel it, I don't look it, and I don't act it.
  24. cp176
    I think that this is a great potential idea. It would be fun. Worth going back to the ballpark for. You can tell a lot about a person by the way they write on a board like this. I think for many this would be a fun thing to do. For instance - you are not the kind of person who needs it or would take it if offered but even though I have never met you, I would fly your little hindquarters right up to the park and back on me.
  25. cp176
    Very true - Sometimes you just roll the dice.
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