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Yup - And I can deal from a deck of 5 aces also.

You are just trying to stir up trouble once again! Is your first name Cliff? lol:)

"f***tard" - lol positive regression- Is that like bouncing back? KISS principle for me.

Yes that is much better. Our pitching staff is better than most and will likely face the same set of trials and tribulations that every other team in the league will face. Before it is all said and done, I think that we will probably add another arm. Through what method though is still to be determined.

Very true I think. I really have to think which I obviously do that when these superstars are given these super long term contracts , that the for the most part super rich owners have no expectations really that they will get their monies worth for the duration of the contract. I like the auction analogy.

Oh man - that obvious

I'm just in a rip roaring rambling rampage today.

Gonna fall on deaf ears here my friend. Seriously think about all of that talent we would still have and who we could trade it for now if we hadn't made a power move to win a couple of years ago. I'm having a hard day - I'm finally coming to the realization that Bellhorn doesn't read my posts and that the cliff is certainly closer than guys like you and I thought it could be and that one of the worst moves that we could ever make would be to sign one of the best hitters in the game to a 5 year contract. How will we ever have enough money to re-sign the likes of Bradley and Bogaerts? Plus the fact that if we don't rush out and sign a #5 starting pitcher, our pitching is even going to suck this year. Woe is me - woe is me - woe is me - these guys are screwing up my merry Christmas -- lol

Oh ok - good one - you got me.

I think you read my posts (although I'm not sure why anyone would sometimes). I've repetitively said that I'm for hanging on to Sale and Betts for sure but as for the rest, nope not losing sleep over any of them who choose to move on . With that being said, i also have said that I do have high hopes for both Devers and Benintendi but I'm not ready to anoint them as anything special either just yet.

Yes I believe it can and will be able to adequately replace most of our current crop of everyday players. Probably because I just don't think that our current crop is all that good. Ultimately, because I truly do not think that the majority of our everyday players are anything special, it will come right down to the pitching as it quite often does anyway.

That is what I'm talking about Notin. You see you do get it. We have a GM who doesn't feel obligated to let his fan base in on every little injury, prospective signing, or other types of day to day stuff thus we must not have a GM. What forever shall we do?

Sale - Betts - maybe Benintendi and Devers - I'll bet that we will be able to afford them.

every other ml team has a pitching staff with between 7 and 10 healthy starters. Most of them were probably developed in their own minor league systems. a pox uno the boston Red Sox. doesn't matter what anyone says or thinks this franchise sucks primarily because of the incredible change in philosophy that we are recently undergoing under the lack of GM leadership. (How am I doing so far Larry? lol) Our draft picks suck because we win too many games - our free agent signings always just suck. I'm betting that there can't be one other franchise that even envies the fact that we have won the east for the last two consecutive seasons.

lol- Larry has spoken. We have no chance! Our entire starting pitching staff sucks.

Hey, don't get me wrong though, since we already have him I was looking forward to his healthy return. I just think that anybody thinking that he is going to come out of this one ok even if suspended for a lengthy stretch, is dreaming.

Your approach seems a little too negative for me. For the record, although i do like how DD goes about his business - he treats it like his not ours - I could care less who the GM is. I'm going to look forward to the spring and sitting tight and thinking that our offensive woes are going to magically heal themselves, won't make it for me.

Realistically do people think that Wright has any chance of overcoming the image scrutinizing up here that he is about to experience? Not me but hey I would have traded him long ago when he was right in the middle of his best run. Knuckleballers and their swings don't suit my personality very well.

I'm not sure that there is any real fix to the "problems" bad contracts create. I'm very sure that if a poll was taken as to how we fans might solve the problems that have been created, there would be so many different suggestions that it would be joke like. Signing JD Martinez to a 5 year deal might be a great deal for us and it might not.

This I agree with very much. Has been a mind boggler for me how much attention has been paid to the GMs that have worked for the Sox and the constant scrutinizing of every move each of them has made. It is the actual decisions themselves that seem significant to me as opposed to who has been responsible for this and that. The Red Sox are and having been paying for some time now for lousy baseball decisions from a $ perspective. It is a damn good thing that our primary owner is a multi billionaire!

Based on our current social climate, I would be very surprised if he pitches in Boston again. Court of public opinion has more clout today than the real court in some instances.

Yes Virginia, there is a Santa claus! I saw that.

Just heard an interview with Tim Britton and it just seems once again that common sense is coming in to play. I am a DD fan - I get that - but the biggest reason is that I believe that his primary moves just make sense to me. KISS - it still works. Britton says that Martinez to Boston makes sense for both sides and that we just are in the middle of the waiting game to really see who else might be interested. 5 years seems to be the thinking right now. As for the Moerland signing, he provides a great backup plan if Ramirez cannot get it done for us early in the season. He does not see a signing of Martinez, and Moreland, really being much of an issue with respect to playing time. If Bradley winds up being dealt, I've got to think that it will be for pitching. Signing Martinez does not mean by any means that JBJ gets moved. He also noted that with Santana being signed, they really did not want to lose out on signing Moreland. First base defense still counts. I kind of think that Sam Travis or anybody else who people might have thought might be playing some first for us next year, all will have to prove what they might be able to do before they get the chance.

Nunez you mean right? He for sure didn't look like Chuck Schilling out there. (research needed or not) He actually looked as though his fielding ability was more on the Felix Mantilla plane. Mantilla could really hit though. How about Martinez's fielding ability? I think that you probably know that I do not put all of my faith into what the metrics say. I have been told that he is a terrible outfielder but just recently I read an article that led me to believe that he really wasn't that bad at all. As in average. What do you have to say?

yup