Bellhorn04
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In 2018 the tax threshold was 197 million and the Red Sox payroll was 240 million, so they were over by 43 million. Biggest contracts: From DD Price 31 JDM 22 Kimbrel 13 Sale 12.5 Total 78.5 From Ben Hanley 22 Porcello 20.625 Pablo 19 Pedey 13.75 Total 75.375 Considering that Porcello was the only one of Ben's to contribute in 2018, you can easily make a case that Ben was more responsible for exceeding the threshold that year. If we didn't go over in 2018, the whole tax scenario would have changed.
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2018 was the first year of exceeding the tax threshold, so that's the first year that matters.
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If you really buy into the theory that it was the tax concerns that prevented the Red Sox from keeping Mookie, then you have to blame Cherington too. Because a big chunk of the money on the payroll in 2018 and 2019 was carried over from Ben, and a big chunk of that chunk was dead money.
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No other choice than what? The only reports we've ever had, and they're not confirmed, of course, are that the Red Sox offered either 300 or 310, and Mookie came back with 420. But the fact is that none of us know if there were any other negotiations that may have led Henry and Werner to conclude that it just wasn't happening. And I think it was you who floated the idea that after negotiations with Mookie stalled, they pivoted to the extensions with Sale and Bogaerts.
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Thanks, harmony.
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Blaming it on Henry or blaming it on DD are probably both wrong. I think what happened is that Mookie played hardball from Day One and gave every reason to think he was heading all the way to an epic Free Agency. Which put the team in the position of either trading him or getting one last meaningless season for nothing.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you. The real question is the methodology they're using to value some of these players with little or no MLB numbers to base on. How much weight gets placed on what? With Houck, you would think his speculative value would have taken a leap.
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Ha ha! Henry has brought us 4 WS, and we've always had the highest or 2nd-4th highest payrolls. Of course he can be and is questioned. But if choosing to support someone who has done the above makes you a boot-licker, I'm guilty as charged.
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But notin said he does everything but make contact.
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And some pretty good trades, too.
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Perhaps the answer is that he eked out a fWAR of 0.1 in 15 games. When you consider that 1 fWAR is equal to $7-8 million in free agent dollars, I guess it makes sense. I think there is a bit of an issue doing valuations based on such small samples, though.
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Why exactly is Chavis way over rated?
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We talk about these guys almost like they're sub-humans or something LOL
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No, harmony likes to respond with the Jamie Moyer trade.
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Well, in a perfect world you might keep a couple of them as back-end-of-pen fodder.
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Sweet.
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Yes, I'm just saying that a free agent contract with a player opt-out is even worse than one without an opt-out.
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He opted out of his contract with the Dodgers before signing with the Red Sox. But he lived up to his contract with us for the most part.
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But then it'll be even harder to manage your payroll. There's no perfect solution.
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The Yanks had a chance to let Sabathia go after 3 good years, but they blew it and re-upped him. But it's hard to let a guy go who's been your ace. If an opt-out works in favor of the team, it's strictly by luck.
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In theory, the opt-out could work in the team's favor. In reality, has it ever done so?
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162 Game Suspension for Robinson Cano for PED Violation
Bellhorn04 replied to a700hitter's topic in Other Baseball
I doubt he was the only pitcher in the HOF who doctored the baseball, though. -
True. And Xander's deal was a very reasonable one. It would have a great one if not for the darn opt-out. Hate those things.
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It's the way the arb system is now. JBJ got a raise for 2020 even though his 2019 season was worse than his 2018 season. You only get good young players cheap for 4 seasons at the most now. The fact that E-Rod didn't play shouldn't have any bearing, though. Not his fault he got the plague.
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Extend the man!
