Bellhorn04
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You can't really say for sure he would make no difference.
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That kind of falls into the coin flip category. But the Hindsight Jury will make a final ruling after the 2021 or 2022 season. (It's possible that 2021 will decide it one way or the other.)
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I see no mention of the recent lawsuit for sexual battery against him.
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Next thread name: What'sa Mata?
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My guess on that hypothetical is that he would have signed with the Dodgers.
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You're in a fan club with one member.
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If you look at those 'COVID-19 benefits' in isolation, they look good for the team. But if you look at the overall impact, not so good.
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Tomase seems to think like a fan. The idea of trading for one year of Bryant and sticking him in left field is beyond silly.
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No doubt. Of course that was an unforeseeable factor. Although...the trade took place on February 10, when COVID-19 was just beginning to rear its head, but we had no idea how bad it would be.
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I haven't seen many juvenile comments directed toward either of late.
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From what we know, all the Red Sox had to do to keep Mookie was agree to his proposal of $420 million, or maybe a slightly lower amount.
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Just because he ordered a re-set doesn't mean it had anything to do with their ability or intentions to sign Mookie after 2020 or not. It's entirely possible they gave up completely on keeping Mookie but wanted the re-set anyway.
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moon, we're not on teams here. 700hitter is the only one who has used the "coffee boy" line.
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And who says we know that?
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This is the one thing we'll never know, unless Mookie fesses up about it one day, but I think there's a very good chance this is true. And I think he settled for a chunk less than he was hoping to get in free agency.
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I enjoy the back-and-forth jibber-jabber here, myself. A lot of it is just pointless, and a lot of it is redundant as heck. It's just banter, really.
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So we could have kept Mookie and re-set the tax. But that still wouldn't have guaranteed signing him as a free agent, so what would be the point of not trading him and getting something for him?
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Cot's has our non-prorated 2020 payroll for tax purposes at about 198.5, or 9.5 below the threshold. If you reverse the Dodgers trade Add back Mookie 27 Add back Price 15 Total 42 That would put us over by 32.5 Subtract JBJ 11 Subtract Perez 6 Total 17 Still over by 15.5
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I agree with you. But there was a narrative that one of the big reasons they traded Mookie was to re-set the tax. (See the first post in this thread.) Another part of that narrative that you may recall was the idea that after we re-set the tax, we would be in a better position to sign Mookie as a free agent.
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As harmony might say, there is a wide range of possible outcomes.
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Here's one way to look at it. Spilt the 12 year deal in two: First half covers Mookie from age 28.5 to age 34. Second half covers from age 34.5 to age 40. The first half should be very good to great. It's that second half that's scary. It's 6 years of well past prime years still on the books at $30 million per year.
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It's all about the narrative that "we had to trade Mookie in 2020 to re-set the tax rate". We didn't go over in 2018 and 2019 just because of DD's spending. We went over because of Ben's spending too - especially in 2018 - with about $55 million of dead money still on the books. And we went over because Henry authorized it - he wanted to go for broke, so to speak. If you want to assign blame for the tax situation, there's no way you can leave out Ben or JH.
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The ones who said they wouldn’t care if it was a 20 yr rebuild were lying their asses off, of course.
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Henry didn't just sign the checks - as notin says, he set the spending budget.
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You left out Pablo for 2019 - that was his final year.
