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6/25 vs Yankees (Pedroia's Retirement Party)
Bellhorn04 replied to mvp 78's topic in Mike Grace Memorial Game Thread Forum
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Not much consolation, but all of a sudden Verdugo's OPS is only 110 points higher than Kike's (.796 to .686).
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Not feeling as confident myself. But I never feel very confident, just because it's baseball.
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Our highest OPS is .932, so that's a little doubtful.
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No question. But Kimmi was talking about the opposing pitcher getting a boost from an easy first out.
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If you're the Rays you can LOL With the Red Sox, whenever we tried the 'throw stuff against the wall' approach for a bullpen, it didn't work very well. See our 2015 bullpen. With Kimbrel we got one of the best relievers ever, for only 2 years and 24 million guaranteed, plus a team option year. If we had got him as a free agent for that deal, I think most people would have said it was a bargain.
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The Red Sox do have an .818 OPS in the first inning, however.
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Good question. Somebody there liked him, I guess.
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Mild overpay sums it up.
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It's unlikely you're going to trade Barnes to a contender and get back a useful arm for this year. Why would a contender trade one of their useful arms? It has to be a trade scenario that makes sense on both sides.
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They did, but it wasn't a throw in the towel trade, it was the exact opposite.
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6 games back at the end of August (not July) when the team was ravaged by injuries. Like I say, there was some grumbling, but I don't think it was a huge deal.
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GMs are always thinking about trying to extract value from impending free agents, I expect. The question is whether any who are in contention would actually do it. It's like kicking your fans in the stomach. And baseball fans are already an endangered species.
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Wells, huh? Let's see. They traded him on August 31, 2006, when we were 6 games out of a Wild Card spot and half the team was on the DL. He had pitched only 47 innings with a 4.98 ERA, and brought back George Kottaras. I do recall that some Red Sox fans grumbled about it at the time, but I think it was a pretty faint grumbling.
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It kind of feels like the Rays could bring in 14 random guys off the street and turn them into a good pitching staff.
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When we were talking about this before, I think we figured out that the only time in history a team in contention at the deadline traded a significant player was when the Rays traded Kazmir.
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Man, I can't wait to see the reaction of Red Sox Nation and media if he trades Barnes at the deadline. It's true that it would kind of suck to let him go for nothing. But not as much as throwing in the towel on a season. Unless we flounder bigly between now and then (which is certainly possible), it would be a stunning decision.
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Anyway we're not missing much with Beni. fWAR 0.5 bWAR 1.0 currently on IL
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Or they just hung onto the money, depending on how you look at it.
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We often evaluate trades of prospects in hindsight.
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Kimbrel has had an outstanding career, with some bumps along the way, like so many other players. He has to be one of the top 5 or so relievers in history.
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I'm afraid that COVID has made people in general a little nuttier.
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Let's not even talk about that until about a month from now.
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More. But in this case, I would argue that Kimbrel's remaining contract was just about perfect for a closer (2 years plus a team option). And it worked out that way. Personally, I think the fairest way to look at it is what Kimbrel would have gotten if he was a free agent that offseason. What do you think that would have been?
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Sure. And Mookie Betts was salary-dumped by us, with one year of control and a $27 million salary. And yet he commanded a high return. I don't really see your point.
