Bellhorn04
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700 not a fan of it.
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cp176 was the biggest hater of the trade.
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Ouch.
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Some doubts about Grissom.
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Hitch loved it.
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Dipre also in the "more must be coming" category.
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moon's initial reaction was not enthused.
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Red was all over the $17 mill!
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Another "more is coming" believer.
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The "more is coming" response.
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And another.
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Here's a guy who wasn't impressed.
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All? Definitely not. Go back and read the initial reactions on this thread. They were mixed, with a lot of them guessing it meant there was more coming. If everyone knew at the time that the only things happening were Sale going and Giolito coming, I think the overall reaction would have been decidedly negative.
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Well, it's pretty basic stuff. In the case of Sale, they were going to be on the hook for some of his salary no matter what. They ended up on the hook for 17.5 million They traded Sale for 10 million and Grissom.
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Of course not. It's the sunk cost principle.
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They didn't have to "count on" Sale, IMHO. Consider him your fungible #5 starter who may need to be jettisoned at some point, cross your fingers and hope for the best. There's a ton of guesswork and luck in pitching rotations these days. Nobody can plan for all the s*** that happens.
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And I think the decision to give Whitlock another shot at starting was part of the decision to trade Sale, too.
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And there's no one else to call on.
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Again they could have had both. Not sure why that point has to be repeated. You can never have enough pitching. If you think they did enough and weren't negligent that's fine, we're all entitled to our opinions. I'm not changing mine. I haven't seen anything to convince me they didn't do too little.
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At the time we didn't know Giolito would be the only addition. I was silly enough to think if they were trading Sale it meant a big addition was coming.
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As for Giolito, it's not the fact that he get injured that made it a questionable signing. It's that a) He was the worst pitcher in baseball the last 2 months of 2023. His contract guaranteed $38 million but had an opt out that meant if he pitched great we'd probably lose him after one year. All in all, there's just no way you can give a passing grade to what they did for the rotation. It was just another offseason of negligence.
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There was only one year left though. Not much to lose by keeping him. And they only saved $10 million. There are plenty of reasons to question the underlying logic of this move, when you look at the totality of what they did.
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Exactly.
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Sale pitched 102.2 last year. Not great but 102.2 more than zero. I've yet to see an explanation for how subtracting innings is a plus. It wouldn't have broken any rules to keep Sale and sign Giolito.
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It was a risky rotation they put together. I don't really see how having Sale in the mix would have actually increased the risk. If he got injured again, it was the last guaranteed year of his contract so you just write it off. Anyway, I'm just covering points I've already made, just jabbering for something to do, quite honestly LOL
