Bellhorn04
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Thank you Captain Obvious. Yes, I will stipulate to the plausibility of the premise that Sale was willing to accept a below-market deal because he recognized that he was an elevated injury risk.
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Thanks guys. This place is wacky but it's the best!
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Space just might be next on the list of signings.
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Jose Iglesias was there for the taking 2 years in a row.
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Aaaaaghhhh!
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Bellhorn04 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Could be both too. Hitters having a good idea what kind of pitch is coming. Also, why are our guys so tired? -
They were still major league players. Unless we're buying into old man complaints that players just aren't as good anymore. Plus other pitchers got to face these teams too, so if we really wanted to dig we'd have to do a lot of comparisons. Edit: May 19-31, 2019 - 3 games vs. Houston and NYY - Sale struck out 25 in 17.1 IP.
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Bellhorn04 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
"Back to the old drawing board!" -
Bullfeathers. I've never once said there weren't real injury concerns.
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First you have to explain how he could do those May and June numbers while injured.
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Sale was so injured in May, 2019 that he could only strike out 66 guys in 38.1 innings!
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So you're going to ignore the May-June ERA and K rates now?
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C'mon man. May ERA 2.82 7.33 K/BB June ERA 2.73 10.00 K/BB. Please.
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How 'bout those game logs for the first half of 2019? Over 100 innings in April-June! That kind of destroys the injured thing, no?
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Craig Breslow hired as Head Of Baseball Operations
Bellhorn04 replied to Tedballgame's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
Eflin is also under contract for 2025. We missed out on him twice. To me the Sox failure to get a guy like Eflin shows exactly how badly we're f***ing up the kind of opportunities we should be capitalizing on. -
A really freaking hard game.
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Now do April-June 2019?
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2 separate things?
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He was on the field at the end of 2018. He got the last 3 outs of the year, as I recall. He would have had a medical exam before signing the extension, obviously. You're using a really loose definition of injured. There were injury concerns, that's a different thing.
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At the end of 2018 Sale finished in the top 6 in Cy Young voting for the 7th year in a row!
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The Sale extension was not a clear overpay at the time. $145 million, with a present value of $128 million because of deferrals, for one of the top pitchers in the game. It was much less than Price and some others got. Sale was healthy at the end of 2018 and obviously his medical exam didn't turn up anything serious. He pitched 147 innings in 2019. The injury concerns were real, but can we please stick to the facts?
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Sale and Bogaerts that is. And Sale was not injured at the end of 2018.
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Withdrawn. The rest of what I said was the important part.
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If Sale was having a great year with us his vesting option would likely kick in and most people would be happy about it. A few would still want us to Sell High of course.
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