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  1. Yeah, I think the plan was all of a piece - slash payroll and get a CBO from the Rays organization who knows how to get more out of less. The best laid plans of mice and men and John Henry.
  2. Yes, I have read that, and it's really bad reporting. They don't tell us what was said directly before that quote from Betts.
  3. From what we have observed about this Red Sox organization, I think that if it was Betts who was the instigator behind the trade, they would have very gladly leaked the story.
  4. OK but you're going as far as saying Betts encouraged the team to trade him.
  5. Scott said nearly. I would assume that means $280-$290 million. It's a lot of money. But I can understand Betts thinking it was not enough.
  6. OK I'm nit-picking a bit about the $300 million number. It's just that Betts said there was no $300 million offer and Scott backed him up by saying it was nearly $300 million without saying how nearly.
  7. Looks like this was "rounded off" if Betts and Scott are telling the truth.
  8. Understood. My position is that there's no evidence that Mookie wanted out or asked to be traded. That's all speculation. As far as I know no one in the organization has ever said this was the case. The simple fact is that the Red Sox traded him.
  9. It's kind of a quality vs. quantity argument.
  10. A reliever that averages 2.0 WAR per season is Mariano Rivera. A first baseman that averages 2.0 WAR I'll guess gives you about 20 HR and 70 RBI.
  11. I'm turning into Bill Freaking Parcells...all that seems important to me anymore is the team's W-L record.
  12. Well, a lot of this stuff is pretty subjective. But would you rather have a reliever that averages 1.8 WAR per 60 innings or a first baseman that averages 1.9 WAR per full season? One guy is among the elite at his position and the other is mediocre.
  13. Relievers only pitch about one-third as many innings. So Rivera played at the equivalent of a 6 WAR player for 19 seasons. That's how I look at it anyway.
  14. Please post about Mookie in the other thread! 😄
  15. Correct, and Scott also backs this up, saying it was close but not all the way there.
  16. But: 1) Mookie insists he wanted to stay in Boston but didn't receive what he thought was a market value offer; and 2) Zack Scott backs this up. Scott said "He should be beloved. Mookie would have signed with us for maybe even a little less. We didn't get there." So why do you think they're lying?
  17. Well, maybe a higher AAV would have done it, too. But the main point is that it wasn't because he didn't want to stay in Boston.
  18. The bottom line is that the Bloom-Breslow years have largely been very disappointing and often very boring. Both of them made some good moves but far too many bad ones.
  19. Cheering against the team is not a new tactic for Fred at all. He has done it in many seasons when the team was going bad.
  20. You should post this in the Zack Scott thread I just bumped.
  21. Baseball Trade Values calculates a player's net value based strictly on their contracts and their projected WARs. It can be useful, but you're right about Chapman, he would fetch a pretty good return. BTV doesn't take into account things like how much a team trying to win it all would give up for an elite closer.
  22. Zack Scott said quite the opposite, Joe. I just bumped the thread I started about what Scott said about Betts.
  23. Bumping so I can argue with Joe B. about why Betts was traded. 🙂
  24. I have been a pot smoker for over 50 years. 😎
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