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  1. Bellhorn04
    The Yankees and Dodgers are kicking our asses these days. The only thing that is keeping a lot of Sox fans from being miserable about it is the Four Rings and now the Fab Four. I get your position too, moon. I just like stirring up some controversy!
  2. Bellhorn04
    I thought the story was that when transfers of that size are made, the rules are that the bank is obligated to verify that they're legit transactions (money laundering concerns etc.). These transfers were made to an illegal betting operation.
  3. Bellhorn04
    No, it's a serious question. Regardless of whether it was Ohtani or the interpreter making the transfers, why didn't the bank flag and investigate them?
  4. Bellhorn04
    And the Dodgers did get off pretty cheap with what we got for Betts, when you look at what the Padres got for Soto. They got big-time pitching! We got scraps. And if the reason we got scaps was the Price inclusion, Bloom should have left that out of the deal. Just one blunder after another since Bloom was hired.
  5. Bellhorn04
    Possible sub-title for this series: Lucrative Lumber AAVs Ohtani 46 mill Judge 40 Soto 31 (last year of arbitration) Betts 30 Freeman 27 Stanton 22 (25 - 3 subsidized by Marlins) Total 196 mill - avg 33 per Nutty! (Sorry moon.😁)
  6. Bellhorn04
    The Dodgers haven't missed the playoffs since 2012. Maybe they have a clue what they're doing.
  7. Bellhorn04
    The reason I'm defending the Dodgers is that they've been the most successful team in MLB the last 5-10 years, based on regular season records. I think Andrew Friedman is pretty good, although he's had his share of questionable ones just like all the big spending teams do. And the ownership is obviously committed hard. They're paying a lot of tax and invoking other penalties but they're not backing off, and here they are in the Series. Maybe it's nutty, but if I was a Dodger fan I would love the aggressiveness.
  8. Bellhorn04
    As for the Bogaerts signing, I've said more than once that it might be the worst contract of all time. The consensus was $200 million tops, and he got 40% more than that. It would have been interesting to find out which other teams were involved in the bidding. Boras must have laughed his ass off at the Sox last offer. They only fell short by $118 million! The whole thing was just humorous. I loved Bogaerts when he played for us, but San Diego is going deep underwater on this one.
  9. Bellhorn04
    OK good one. That betting thing was so bizarre. I fully understand anyone thinking the interpreter took the rap for Ohtani. The one thing I can't figure out about it - we heard about all the safeguards banks supposedly have in place now, and how large transfers of cash would have caused alerts. So why didn't the bank catch onto this sooner? That's a puzzler to me.
  10. Bellhorn04
    Ohtani's AAV is 46.1 million and his 2024 FanGraphs value was 72.6 million. So they're nicely ahead for 2024 at least. And that doesn't factor in his impact on their postseason run, marketing etc. His deal might end up looking nutty, but calling it nutty at this early juncture just because it's an extremely large amount doesn't make much sense to me. What about Devers's extension? Ohtani's total AAV is 158% of Devers's. Are you going with nutty on Devers's extension?
  11. Bellhorn04
    Yeah but at least I tried to explain it.
  12. Bellhorn04
    It all comes down to how you define nutty, I guess. To me nutty means irrational. If you invest $700 million and it turns into $1 billion, that would be a good thing, wouldn't it? You seem to be saying Ohtani's contract is irrational no matter what.
  13. Bellhorn04
    Extreme does not necessarily equate to nutty.
  14. Bellhorn04
    Michael Wacha (you probably don't mean a price that small) Chris Sale (original contract they took on from CWS) Rick Porcello?
  15. Bellhorn04
    I derive actual pain from the Yankees winning and pleasure from them losing. It's as simple as that.
  16. Bellhorn04
    That's the point, really. To average Joe Shmoes like me and you, a ballplayer making $600 million is beyond nutty. There are no words strong enough. But we just don't live in that world so we can't really comprehend it.
  17. Bellhorn04
    No, it's up to you to explain why it is nutty. Anyone can just recite those numbers. You totally left out the structure of Ohtani's contract, the fact that he's only paid $2 million a year from 2024-2033. So the $700 million number is pretty useless on its own.
  18. Bellhorn04
    There's talk that Soto might get as much as $600 million. Great player, but that seems nutty even to me. But we're talking about a world that none of us can really comprehend, frankly.
  19. Bellhorn04
    Yeah, I get that this seems nutty in our little world, but it doesn't address the actual question-can Ohtani be beneficial to the Dodgers financially in spite of the massive cost and risk? You and I don't have the answer to that. Personally I think the Dodgers must have calculated that the answer is yes.
  20. Bellhorn04
    Actually 5 Gloves, the reasons the Dodgers have been able to survive the insane injuries to their rotation is because they also have plenty of expensive and/or well-bred talent in their bullpen and of course their offense. Just look at the Game 6 clincher vs. the Mets. Give up 5 runs? Not a problem when you score 10!
  21. Bellhorn04
    OK, let's pick the Dodgers. Can you explain exactly what makes their spending nutty? Do you have information that it's causing them financial problems? If so we'd all love to have it. If you want to keep calling it nutty you kind of have to back it up.
  22. Bellhorn04
    We've talked plenty of times about whether signing free agents is for PR or baseball purposes. I guess my position is that it can easily be both. From Manny Ramirez to Koji Uehara to J D Martinez, the Red Sox have had free agent signings that have been instrumental to championships. The elephant in the room issue is that Henry has clearly made a decision to keep payroll down the last few years, and not a single one of us knows if that's because he's being smart and waiting until the time is right, or because his focus is no longer on field success but strictly profit and capital growth.
  23. Bellhorn04
    Thanks for this, Maddie. I agree of course. I don't have to be a Dodgers fan to root for them hard here!
  24. Bellhorn04
    I take issue with calling the spending of the teams that have passed us as "nutty" without adding any context of increases in revenues and franchise values. Maybe it's the Red Sox who are actually being "nutty".
  25. Bellhorn04
    But you NEVER take into account the growths in baseball revenues and franchise values, which are much more pertinent than the inflation rate in the economy as a whole. In March 2019 Forbes valued the Red Sox franchise at 3.2 billion. In March 2024 Forbes valued the Red Sox franchise at 4.5 billion. A tidy little 40% increase in 5 years. You keep attributing our fall in the payroll rankings to other teams going "nutty". Any chance increases in revenue have a lot to do with the "nutty"? No offense moon, but when it comes to these payroll analyses, you produce a lot of numbers but you only give one side of the picture. And you seem to be trying to paint Henry and his "restraint" in a more favorable light than is deserved.
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