Nobody knows what any of the Fab Four can contribute in 2025.
I'm pessimistic about 2025 for a few reasons:
1) We played .420 ball after the ASB, and it can't be chalked up to an abnormal number of injuries.
2) Health status of Devers and Yoshida.
3) From an 81-81 team, we lose O'Neill, Pivetta, Jansen and Martin.
4) I think there's a good chance the brain trust surveys all this and decides 2025 is another punt year.
There are better times ahead, but I don't think they start in 2025, based on all the negative factors and uncertainty, and the "patient" approach we have seen.