Bellhorn04
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So in 2021 the rebuild begins.
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Or we've recently drafted some good kids that we'll be able to trade later on.
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Out of the '4 for 2' of course, E-Rod is the only one who can be sent to Pawtucket. With Buch, Wright and Pom they have to be in the rotation, in the bullpen, on the DL or DFA'd. So if they all look OK in the spring, you'd rather stash one guy in AAA than DFA one guy. That's really the only point. If E-Rod looks great in spring I agree it's pretty unlikely they send him to AAA. The logjam may well be cleared by trading Buch anyway.
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You can't project 10 years without a lot of massive assumptions.
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Sure, hypothetically speaking it would be great to have a very good chance of making the playoffs for the next 10 years, but it's not realistic. Maintaining a winning team is only going to get more difficult. When you've got great young players like Mookie and Bogaerts and JBJ it's terrific, but how are you going to pay them all when they get past their control years? Even their later arbitration years are going to be expensive. And if you finish high a few years in a row you get low draft picks. The system is set up for parity. The Red Sox organization obviously feels they need to capitalize on their window of opportunity.
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My argument would be that acquiring Sale increases our chances of making the playoffs for the next 3 years. Yes, we were already playoff contenders, but there are a lot of things that can gone wrong even when you look great on paper at the start of the year. Even acquiring Sale doesn't guarantee we'll make the playoffs. It just improves our odds.
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B-R is projecting Frazier's arbitration amount at 13.5 million.
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Some of these statements are pretty presumptuous. How does the writer know that last offseason the White Sox weren't insisting on Betts or Bogaerts in a deal for Sale? Does the writer not think the price on Sale may have dropped since last offseason? Most of us were surprised we didn't have to include any major league talent in the deal.
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Even if it does come to that, so what? Half of what happens on message boards is complaining regardless. That'll never change. Besides, you'll be able to tell them that they're hypocritical, flip-flopping clowns.
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I always feel comfortable in Maine. Like I was saying, we're very similar places.
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There really weren't many people who ever wanted to trade the B's. The situation was different. We needed an infusion of young talent badly. Now the infusion has taken place and we need to focus on winning titles with that talent.
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I honestly believe everyone who posts on this forum understands that we're not going to have as good a farm for years to come as we did before all these moves.
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I think it's impossible to build a team that has a 20% chance of winning it every year for 10 consecutive years. I think that falls under pie in the sky. Just my opinion too of course.
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Oh sure, keep pushing it out-now it's a 7 year window or more we're talking about.
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But you said you didn't believe in trading from desperation. We were in desperation.
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Here in Halifax we first got cable TV in the mid-70's, and all the stations were in Bangor. Every Saturday night we were treated to Dick Stacey's Country Jamboree. Dick Stacey was a gas station owner. It was classic stuff.
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We're good for 4-5 years and we're worried about what's beyond that? Now I have to invoke the words of 700's mother (and my wife as well): 'Don't borrow trouble.' There's nothing any of us can do about it anyway. As long is JH is alive and owns this franchise we should be in good shape. Also: Dombrowski supposedly left the Tigers decimated after their 4-year run, but after one bad year they almost made the playoffs again this year.
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Exactly like parts of my province of Nova Scotia and neighboring New Brunswick. Our geography and highway scenery is very similar to Maine's.
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The trade for Pomeranz was a deadline trade, and it was only made because we had title aspirations and our rotation was in rough shape at the time. It was somewhat of a desperation move. In those situations you overpay.
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But it's not even an opinion about bad things happening to pitchers. Pitchers are subject to extraordinarily high injury rates. And at least one of your starters usually gets off to a bad start for one reason or another. As moonslav keeps mentioning, we had to put Sean O'Sullivan in the rotation in May last year.
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I understand the position of the writer. Personally I think he's a little too certain about the Red Sox not needing Sale. We might need him a lot. We don't know for sure that the other starters won't be struck by injury or underperformance. You can never have enough pitching and all that.
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This might be in the year 2020, our supposed 'cliff year'. We do have a bunch of guys who are under team control in 2020. Pedroia, JBJ, Mookie, Carson Smith, ERod, Swihart, Wright and Vazquez. Price if he doesn't opt out. Plus other guys we might sign in the meantime.
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I actually deleted my post because it was kind of crappy LOL But yes, keeping all 7 to keep the Sean O'Sullivans of the world out of the picture if possible makes a ton of sense to me. It just creates some roster issues with where you stash the extra guy or two.
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Dombrowski is not incapable of rebuilding moves. Trading Cespedes for Fulmer was a dandy little rebuilding move he made just before he got canned.
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I don't disagree.
