Bellhorn04
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Some of these statements are pretty presumptuous. How does the writer know that last offseason the White Sox weren't insisting on Betts or Bogaerts in a deal for Sale? Does the writer not think the price on Sale may have dropped since last offseason? Most of us were surprised we didn't have to include any major league talent in the deal.
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Even if it does come to that, so what? Half of what happens on message boards is complaining regardless. That'll never change. Besides, you'll be able to tell them that they're hypocritical, flip-flopping clowns.
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I always feel comfortable in Maine. Like I was saying, we're very similar places.
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There really weren't many people who ever wanted to trade the B's. The situation was different. We needed an infusion of young talent badly. Now the infusion has taken place and we need to focus on winning titles with that talent.
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I honestly believe everyone who posts on this forum understands that we're not going to have as good a farm for years to come as we did before all these moves.
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I think it's impossible to build a team that has a 20% chance of winning it every year for 10 consecutive years. I think that falls under pie in the sky. Just my opinion too of course.
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Oh sure, keep pushing it out-now it's a 7 year window or more we're talking about.
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But you said you didn't believe in trading from desperation. We were in desperation.
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Here in Halifax we first got cable TV in the mid-70's, and all the stations were in Bangor. Every Saturday night we were treated to Dick Stacey's Country Jamboree. Dick Stacey was a gas station owner. It was classic stuff.
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We're good for 4-5 years and we're worried about what's beyond that? Now I have to invoke the words of 700's mother (and my wife as well): 'Don't borrow trouble.' There's nothing any of us can do about it anyway. As long is JH is alive and owns this franchise we should be in good shape. Also: Dombrowski supposedly left the Tigers decimated after their 4-year run, but after one bad year they almost made the playoffs again this year.
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Exactly like parts of my province of Nova Scotia and neighboring New Brunswick. Our geography and highway scenery is very similar to Maine's.
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The trade for Pomeranz was a deadline trade, and it was only made because we had title aspirations and our rotation was in rough shape at the time. It was somewhat of a desperation move. In those situations you overpay.
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But it's not even an opinion about bad things happening to pitchers. Pitchers are subject to extraordinarily high injury rates. And at least one of your starters usually gets off to a bad start for one reason or another. As moonslav keeps mentioning, we had to put Sean O'Sullivan in the rotation in May last year.
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I understand the position of the writer. Personally I think he's a little too certain about the Red Sox not needing Sale. We might need him a lot. We don't know for sure that the other starters won't be struck by injury or underperformance. You can never have enough pitching and all that.
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This might be in the year 2020, our supposed 'cliff year'. We do have a bunch of guys who are under team control in 2020. Pedroia, JBJ, Mookie, Carson Smith, ERod, Swihart, Wright and Vazquez. Price if he doesn't opt out. Plus other guys we might sign in the meantime.
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I actually deleted my post because it was kind of crappy LOL But yes, keeping all 7 to keep the Sean O'Sullivans of the world out of the picture if possible makes a ton of sense to me. It just creates some roster issues with where you stash the extra guy or two.
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Dombrowski is not incapable of rebuilding moves. Trading Cespedes for Fulmer was a dandy little rebuilding move he made just before he got canned.
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I don't disagree.
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So how can you disagree with it if it made perfect sense - is it that you think they undervalued Iggy? Do you think they could have obtained Peavy for less? Or do you think Peavy wasn't essential? Which is it.
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What we do know is that Peavy did almost exactly what the Red Sox and what any analyst should have expected him to do. If Ben Cherington thought the team needed exactly what Peavy provided, that's good enough for me. And we all know Ben was not a guy who liked trading prospects.
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Nobody knows if he was. Nobody knows if he wasn't. Nobody ever will know. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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The Pomeranz trade looks bad, but at the time we were desperate for another starting pitcher and there wasn't much available, and we were hoping to win a ring. So it has to be put in perspective.
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2016-2017 Offseason Trade Speculation Thread
Bellhorn04 replied to Dojji's topic in Boston Red Sox Talk
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If they don't trade Buch, Wright might be a candidate to start the year on the DL, the real one or the phantom one.
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GameNGuide? Yeah, that doesn't look like state-of-the art journalism there. Looks like it was written by a 15-year old.
