Bellhorn04
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To work on his game, maybe? He's pitched so little the last two seasons.
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The results are important, of course. It's just that every baseball GM walks into a different situation.
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Maybe this should be in the why was Mookie traded thread.
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Another question is whether we include Pedroia in the list of bloated contracts handed by Ben to DD. It wasn't at the time, but it certainly became one.
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There will always be debatable points. But I've already made my guess, which is that it wasn't the present payroll situation that compelled them to trade Mookie, it was the $400 million it would have taken to retain him.
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The hindsight jury measures these things on 'subsequent events'. You can already measure the loss on Price. 2020 0 2021 16 mill 2022 16 mill Total 32 mill Sale's & Eovaldi's are adjusted down for 2020. The rest we'll have to wait for.
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Rightly or wrongly, Logan Allen has become sort of the poster boy for DD's giving up too much in trades.
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The jury is out on DD's hand-me-downs, agreed. But we know one thing - those 4 you listed for Ben add up to zero WAR or less.
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Yep, I realize all that. I was merely addressing the "bloated contracts of aging stars" hyperbole, which came right on top of moon's claim of 2019 being a bad team. Obviously there are sound reasons for criticizing DD. But there's no need to distort things, either.
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It's true, he hasn't done much yet. Maybe he will, but it's no given.
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That's wild hyperbole about the contracts. Ben left worse contracts.
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There's no way you can call the 2019 team a bad team. It was the same team as the 2018 champs. It was one of the pre-season favorites. It had a Pythagorean record of 87-75.
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The bottom line is that Cash wears it. To me Cash is a guy who makes a lot of really good moves. But he also does some weird things. Not doing anything at this year's deadline was weird. Kind of like he gave up on this year.
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You know there's more to it than that. That's why you know we can contend again next year. DD didn't leave with many indisputably bad contracts on the books. I think Ben actually left with more bad contracts on the books than DD did.
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Not just GM's. Francona. A number of players. It's often been mentioned how the Red Sox have a tendency to smear people on the way out.
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Yeah, we'll never know. Now when they traded Lester to the A's, they could safely assume they would get another shot at him...
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Yeah, that idea was no good.
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Not Epstein, no, but many others.
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I don't think that's the point. The point is where did he leave the team for the next guy. It was bad, but far from destroyed.
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They fooled ya! I thought it was a possibility the minute we traded him. Friedman doesn't seem like the kind of guy to make a big splashy expensive trade for one season of a player. I suspected they would take a shot at keeping him.
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As far as DD being "overrated"...it seems to me he left Boston, like many before him, with his reputation in pretty bad shape. Not only a destroyer of farms but a terrible communicator...
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Well, now you're arguing with yourself, because you were just saying we should be competitive or contenders next year.
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And I don't think DD "destroyed the future". If all goes well, the only destroyed season will be 2020.
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And Pedroia's extension was a fraction (about 30%-110 vs. 365) of Mookie's.
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Maybe. I'm guessing he was very willing to entertain offers, but wasn't just looking to unload them.
