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  1. Independent leagues don't count.
  2. https://blogs.fangraphs.com/just-how-far-apart-are-the-league-and-the-mlbpa/ Update on the differences between the final MLB/MBLPA offers.
  3. It's not enjoyable content.
  4. One of the Patreon tiers would be "OR and MS will only be allowed 1 post each on TalkSox per day."
  5. I think that's the key. For me, I fell in love with the game back in the 80's. AL only played the NL in the AS Game and WS. I could love the Sox, but follow NL teams since it wasn't likely the Sox would ever match up against them. I liked following NL players like Eric Davis, Ozzie, Gwynn and Raines. I was psyched when the Nasty Boys beat the hated A's in 1990. The brand of baseball was more "put the ball in play to manufacture runs." Aside from 1987, the long ball was still under 1 per game (24 of the past 28 seasons have been above 1 per game, it had never been that high prior to 1987).
  6. I was only asking because some fans still think of the early 2000's as the glory days. What was it about the 1970's that altered course for the game? FA? Too many teams? I wasn't old enough then to have an opinion. I think some could point to the 1980's and say "well that's when team's went relief pitcher happy and saves exploded." The 1990's had the work stoppage and the farcical HR chase with two roided up dudes. Early 2000's had long games with more runs being scored than ever, an even worse HR chase, plus Congressional hearings and the advent of PED testing. The 2010's is when analytics really took a hold and you started to see pitchers being pulled early and shifts. The 2020's had the pandemic shortened season, swing path, HR boom, meddling with baseballs and now a lockout. This is looking like the worst decade so far.
  7. @Travis_Sawchik MLB attendance declines following work stoppages that cost games: 1972 (-3.7%) 1981 (-6.8%) 1995 (-20%!) Per-game attendance didn't recover the pre-strike average until 2006.
  8. My question is, when was the tipping point for you? Did something happen that turned you off from the game? The only way analytics has changed the game noticeably is with shifting. Were you ok with the game prior to the shifting? Maybe the better question is what year was the last "good year" for baseball?
  9. Mazz won't start bashing the Sox during a game. He's going to be "carrying the water" 100%.
  10. He has a very unpleasant voice. I'm also not so sure he'll be as critical on NESN as he is on the radio.
  11. O'Brien is definitely a AAAA broadcaster, a dollar store Orsillo.
  12. This news is honestly worse than the lockout. WTF? 1. Annoying voice. 2. Annoying personality. 3. Is overrated as a baseball guy. If he's on, I'm putting the away team's feed on.
  13. I'm not sure they can legally start a scab league since they've locked the players out. I believe they could only have scabs if there was a strike.
  14. This comes from the top. The vast majority of owners don't understand what it means to be a fan. They'll sit in their luxury boxes and never have to even come into contact with the common rabble. Who cares who wins? It's all about the investment!
  15. Yeah, I'm not sure why the vaunted "level headed" John Henry isn't putting a stop to this nonsense, unless he's ok with it.
  16. He takes the bullets for small market owners. He's doing exactly what they want.
  17. Yes, the CBT could go up higher than they'd like in the short term if the conceded more to the players, but they run the risk of turning off many fair weather fans that will find something else to do with their time/money going forward.
  18. It would be cool, but I don't see how they'd get a tv deal, which is where a lot of the money should come from. I think a barnstorming league would be interesting in this day and age. Players would probably market themselves better than MLB did anyway.
  19. Cancelling the first two series is basically saying they are so far apart that there is no chance to get an agreement in a week. Thanks to the "last and best" MLB offer, we are going to be in a holding pattern where they just start lopping off series until the NLRB can help finish this.
  20. I think MiLB can be an exciting game. It's definitely not a tv ready viewing though. If you complain about Raffy's bad throws, Dalbec's defense at 1b or Xander's lack of range, just wait until you see the younger guys. Woof.
  21. If they have to go outside to settle this, it will take a few weeks. This means Opening Day would most likely not be until 4/15.
  22. If ownership is choosing to no longer bargain, it's hard to continue to complain about the players.
  23. @JeffPassan MLB's best-and-final offer: - No changes to CBT thresholds (220/220/220/224/230) - A $5M increase on pre-arb bonus pool from $25M to $30M - An increase of minimums from $675K to $700K, moving up $10K/year If it's their "best and final" then we won't have baseball for a while. This may go to the NLRB.
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