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Nope. Not in the least.

How infantile...but expected. In three pages, everyone has posted in a mature manner. Except for one. Guess who that is? I don't think anyone who posted in this thread truly cares if this post is interesting to you. For all of you who posted in a mature manner, thanks. This was a very nice and cool thread. Thank you for showing that although we all love our teams, we can also appreciate good players on our hated rivals. Thank you all.

I'll take Clemens in a heartbeat. Screw that. He knows how to win.

Nope. I will be toasted tomorrow night though. Then I might actually believe this quote: Schilling is more than likely the 5th best pitcher [or worse] in the two cities. I would take [in no order] Wang, Matsuzaka, Mussina, and Pettitte over Schilling. Please go back to sleep. You can borrow ORS's pillow.

She's kind of wrapped up at the moment.

The DH sucks. Baseball should be the nine guys who are on the field. The DH takes away from the strategy of the game. I love the double switches, whether or not you keep your pitcher in the game or let him hit, etc. Although the Yankees have Giambi as the DH, and he is one of the best in the league, I think that the game is more enjoyable to watch without a DH.

Who knows what Roger will do. However, a700, it is asinine to believe that JH won't be outbid. He has lost a lot more bids to George than he has won. The only one I can think of is Matsuzaka. You sure have a lot of faith in JH over George based on one negotiation. I think Clemens will go where the money is. There is more money in NY. I think he has more ties to Boston, so all things considered even, he goes to Boston. If the Yankees offer 3 million more, he's a Yankee.

Explains a lot ORS. Is your grandmother also your mother?

I don't even see potential. Wang throws just as hard as Beckett, gives up less homeruns, has better control. I don't see Beckett better in any way shape or form. Mussina > Schilling Wang Pettite Johnson Igawa/Pavano The question is not who is number one, etc. The only ones that really matter are 1-4. No one goes with a fifth in the playoffs. However, I will include all 5. So, the Yankees sport Wang, Mussina, Pettitte, Johnson, and Igawa/Pavano. The Red Sox sport Schilling, Matsuzaka, Beckett, Papelbon, Wakefield. In the matchups of number one's, Wang tops anything on either side. Let's put him up against Beckett, since that seems to be the consensus in this argument. No contest. Edge: Big-Yankees. Schilling versus Mussina. Both pitchers are getting up there in years, but Mussina had been more consistent. Edge: Yankees...very slight. Matsuzaka vs Pettitte. Toughest one to call. Pettitte comes with a track record, Matsuzaka could be boom or bust. Pettitte has the pedigree, Matsuzaka has the hype. No one really knows this one. Edge: pick'em [i know Sox fans will disagree, but this could go anywhere from huge edge yanks to huge edge/no contest sox]. No one really knows. Papelbon vs Johnson. Johnson was the benificiary of a potent Yankees offense. Papelbon was dominant in the pen, but problems with his shoulder lead to question marks. However, I will take Papelbon's youth and skill. It's not like Randy Johnson is the most durable these days either. Edge: Red Sox. Wakefield vs the 2 headed monster. Wakefield will put up the same numbers he does every year. The combination of Igawa and Pavano should yield about the same results as Wakefield does alone. Edge: Who cares? I admit, the Sox rotation has more potential, as they have 3 starters under 30 and are still maturing, against the Yankees one in Wang. However, going into next season, I think there is a slight edge to the Yankees only because of the unknown of Matsuzaka. If he comes as advertised, then the edge is huge to the Red Sox.

Well, back to the subject of Piniero....not a bad move if he comes cheap. It really never hurts to stockpile arms. Injuries, ineffectiveness, potential trades...can't really hurt. The Yankees have three solids in their rotation. Wang, Pettitte, and Mussina. Everyone else is a huge question mark. If you bring in four pitchers for two spots, you really can't lose.

This guy could be anywhere from Irabu to Santana. I think he will be a little better than Contreras. A weak #1 or strong #2 is my guess.

Question for the Sox fans. Why don't you guys go after Giles?

I wasn't the only one. Many thought it was a possibility, and I am actually surprised that your front office signed him for as low as they did. In this market, you guys lucked out. The fact that you entertain the thought of someone like Crisp as a solid player shows how much you guys buy into your own hype. Melky Cabrera? A fourth outfielder at best. The media portrays him as some young phenom who plays the game with joy in NY, and that makes him so valuable. Look at his stats, he is a below average offensive outfielder. Buy into that crap. It is that thought process that keeps you guys behind us. Melky Cabrera....our fourth outfielder by a long shot. WMP and Crisp should not be starting for you guys. I for one, am glad that at least one of them will.

Both are useless. Crisp and Williams. At least Lidge has a serious upside. Houston would be idiotic to move the guy for a has been or a never gonna be.

Are you serious? Just when I think you are getting close to reality, you say something like this. Hey, I have an idea! Why don't the YANKEES sign Bernie Williams and trade him for Lidge!!! I mean, Williams had a better year than Coco at the plate! Do you realize the ridicule I would get here if I even dared to mention this in all seriousness? If you are going to use the 2005 stats for Crisp, then you should do the same with Lidge. An .810 ops outfielder for a guy who had a 2.29 ERA, 103K in 70 IP, and a 1.15 WHIP? Get real. Come on ORS, you are better than that.

Reasonable enough. Are the Sox over the luxury tax threshold now? The luxury tax has never really bothered the Yankees. Also, with Pettitte coming off the books after this season along with RJ, they can make a serious push for Zambrano. With Moose and Pavano coming off the books, they can make a serious push for Peavy or Sheets. So the Yankees are improving their model it seems, as are the Sox. Should be fun. Congrats again on Dice-k. Good job.

I thought you would get him, and you go him for less than I thought you would. Congrats Sox fans. Have your day in the sun, and enjoy it. I will not rain on your parade. Your office came through, defied what most people thought needed to be done, and signed the consensus best pitcher on the market for pretty much market value in today's market. Good job. See you in the ALCS.

Didn't he play in the little league world series last year?