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Jacks thinks so. I think he is EXTREMELY OVER-RATED. Hughes and Sanchez for Santana. YEAH BABY!

They both suck. Hughes and Lester. Screw them. I hope the Yankees trade Hughes for Santana at the All-Star break.

If four days was enough, then pitchers could pitch year round. It isn't. The body eventually wears down. I always felt run down at the end of a season, even though we didn't play nearly as often as pro athletes. Remember, this isn't just a muscle issue. Far from it. In fact, it is a joint problem. The rest and recovery and strengthening of the muscle around it creates a natural encapsulation that keeps the humerus in place. Now, with this being said, the more the action takes place, the bigger the chance of the humerus popping out. Although rest and recovery will help, the fact isn't the damage done on one pitch..it's the cumulative effect. The third pitch has a bigger effect than the second, which had a bigger effect than the first, etc. Think about yourself. Is it easier on your body to work out for 20 minutes every other day or four hours every four days?

You also could simply hack dish and get all their channels...not that I know anything about that, but it can be done.

Enough of this Philip Hughes ********. Bring the kid up, and make him this year's version of Jaret Wright. Limit him to six innings a start. Big deal, he has to face the fire sooner or later. I'm not all that high on this guy anyways. I see him as a solid major league pitcher, but never a star or a number one.

I'm in line to pitch the fifth game of the season. My two-seamer is really cooking at about 68 miles an hour. Wait till you see my changeup.

Come on ORS, think about it. Does it make sense? How can doing an action three times more over the course of seven months be a healthier option? It wasn't just me, or my brother, but every doctor and physical therapist I spoke to backed it up [most of my friends are die hard fans]. It just didn't make sense. This was that case. The truth is that four days is not enough time to heal the muscle, so he will severely degrade the muscle/joint to the point of injury by August in all likely hood. Your preconceived notion was correct ORS. You let yourself be swayed by so called "specialists". After all this, the Red Sox are supposed to agree with Papelbon, and put him at greater risk by going against what their specialists and putting him back in the pen? You are saying that they don't care about this young phenom's health or career, and now put him back in the bullpen? Oh, I forgot, his shoulder is healthy. That's the reason to pitch him less innings. If it was destroyed, throw him in the rotation for 200 IP. Doesn't make sense. I can't believe I'm saying this, but you were right, you just changed your mind. All in all, I hate injuries, so I hope Papelbon stays healthy and has a decent career.

I always did like *M*A*S*H*

I totally missed the boat on the Bagwell deal. My bad. You got me there.

Your post was solid, but the Beckett trade could quite possibly be the worst trade your team has made since Sparky Lyle for David Cater. You would still do it? Amazing.

Of course I'm worried. The Red Sox are, and have been, one of the best teams in baseball the last few years. I'd be an idiot not to worry about the Sox if both teams were perfectly healthy. Are you saying you aren't worried about the Yankees? MannyHof24, injuries are a part of the game. The combined losses of all those guys didn't have the impact that losing Sheffield and Matsui for nearly the whole season had on us. Wells and Clement? Serious contributors? You're an idiot. Plain and simple. PAVANO 2007 CY YOUNG WINNER. LOL!

Pavano opening day. Gotta love it. Well, it seems like the door is open for the Sox to make an early push. If you guys don't have the lead by the All Star break, forget it. Get ready for your August swoon. Last year, we took it easy on you. Let's see this year.

Without steroids, he'll be out 3 months. Dammit. Where's a good pharmaceutical when you need one?

The best thing to happen to the Yankees this offseason is if the Red Sox get Jorge Julio. He's like throwing napalm on a camp fire.

I didn't even know Veras was in camp, lol. No loss.

Don't worry, you'll have plenty more chances of tears.

I have to disagree with the thread starter here. Your team got significantly better. I wish they didn't, but I can't argue with what your front office has accomplished this year.

It is undeniable that relievers worry less about stressing their bodies, but that is mainly because they CAN. If a starting pitcher only had to go 3 innings a start, they wouldn't stress themselves either, jacks.

s***. Dammit.

Silenced me? Don't remember that, but when I know I'm right, I don't follow up. Maybe thats what you mean, lol. I don't use WebMD, I use it from my knowledge of medicine, as well as conversation with my brother, who is a surgeon [ok, just a resident, but close enough]. Looseness of a shoulder joint will invariably be under more stress the more the violent action is perpetrated. Wherein the extra rest will undoubtedly help, the fact remains that the trauma caused by such an action is not given enough time to heal. Papelbon would be much better suited to being limited, for example, to no more than one inning and never on back to back games. Anything else is pure folly. Like a700 said, it isn't a muscle issue. Looseness in joint is a completely different thing. For anyone with any semblance of common sense, do you really believe that going through a violent action like throwing a baseball 100 times every five days for 7 months, for a total of approximately 180 innings, will be less strenuous than the same action every other day for say about 25 pitches a day for a total of 70 innings over the same course of time? It's not like relievers are brain dead idiots, going out and throwing as hard as they can on every pitch. If they had gotten enough rest, then pitchers should never get tired in September. In fact, they should be able to pitch year round. Especially starting pitchers. They should pitch until they are old enough to qualify for social security. The analogy is weak, and you know it. The fact that you are using what someone else stated that is blatantly false and you believe it with out even remotely questioning it, well...actually, come to think of it, I'm not surprised.

I never bought the whole "his shoulder will be better on regular rest" ******** that ORS and some others fell for. There is a reason why pitchers when they get older go to the pen, and some with spectacular success [Eckersley]. It's because there is less strain on the arm, and less fatigue overall. I still firmly believe that after the "doctors" sobered up, they realized that an additional 140 IP on an already suspect shoulder would be counterproductive. I wonder why. Even if Timlin was good, Piniero turned his career around, and who ever else you have in the pen was servicable, you still would have seen Paps in the pen.

ESPN reported that Casman said that he won't give an extension to Arod and that he hopes he stays. I am really starting to like this guy. There is no way that Arod will get 27 million a year. He may get more money, but not over the next three years he won't. Let him walk away with his tail between his legs, so that his "legacy" is tarnished as he can't do it in NY. He has so little bargaining power, it's not even funny.

Tampa Bay is notoriously difficult to deal with. Forget it. You have a better chance of getting Derek Jeter.