Never.
I understand baseball's scoring rules. However, it is kind of ******** if you ask me. A guy makes an error, and a run scores because of it, fine. However, If he gives up three hits to follow it and they score three more runs, all of them are unearned. That's a ridiculous rule, if you ask me. Cameron made the error, fine. What about the hitters after that?
This is not a knock on the pitcher, just on the rule. After a phenomenal catch that saves two runs, you don't chalk up the runs to the pitcher saying "well, he shouldn't have caught that ball anyways". Just my two cents anyways.
The Red Sox FO and their sheep on this board.
Seriously, going after a defensive team when you play in a band box is not the best course of action. The premise behind UZR is excellent, but the formulation and dissemination of the data is faulty, which is why the statistic is useless. Not because of the premise, but because of the application of the data...and I may be giving it to much credit.
Also, if you are going to build a team on defense and run prevention, it is a waste of resources to keep the worst catcher in baseball at "run prevention".
I think at this point, those that were debating me about the importance of a catcher behind the plate are eating TONS of s*** right now, and downing it with cases of SHUT THE f*** UP. If they feel to argue some more, pllease refer to GOM's Fearless Predictions, number 7. Here is the link if you need it.
http://www.talksox.com/forum/general-baseball-forum/13981-goms-fearless-predictions.html
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a700, you are not in this group. You've been harping the same case as me for a while.