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Some people think that if the Sox keep playing like garbage and are out of the race at the trading deadline that they will sell off pieces, including possibly Lester. They also think that Lester will not be resigned and the futre will come to Boston in 2015. I think the contrary. If this season continues to be a disatster, fan interest will wane very quickly and that will provide incentive to the FO to keep a fan favorite and established star in Boston. If they win another Championship in 2014 (looking extremely unlikely at this juncture), it will be adios for Lester. If we lose 90 + games and finish last, I would expect ownership to take bold steps to turn the tide -- maybe even go on a spending spree. The 2015 roster will look very different and there will be a few new veterans.

There are a lot of things to do and fun places to spen ones money in and around the Boston area. People will not pay premium prices for garbage. You can get away with that if like some of the small market teams if you want charge $40 for 4 tickets, 4 soft dirinks, 4 hot dog and parking for a Sunday game. Some teams run those promotions. Those prices would not fit the lifestyle of the "entitled" Red Sox FO and ownership. LOL!!

Do we sign anyone ove 6' tall?

Lately some posters have commented how in their opinion a franchise like the Red Sox can't lose 90 games in 2 out of 3 seasons. Some have retorted that they are "entitled" fans with short memories. I agree that a franchise like the Red Sox cannot have these kinds of horrendous seasons this frequently. It has nothing to do with a feeling of entitlement. It's a conclusion based in economic and business reality. The Sox hold themselves out as a premier franchise and they charge premium prices. In 2012, when the team was struggling to get to .500 long before they did their precipitous descent into total suck, the secondary market for Sox tickets evaporated. You could pick up a ticket on Stub Hub for 1/3 of face value. The fans were not interested in paying premium prices for a team full of under performing stars that didn't seem to care. The 2013 advanced sales were not great as a result. A lot of people got burned losing money on 2012 tickets. Last year was magical and throughout the season fan interest returned. Despite the championship, the fan interest didn't get back to pre-2012 levels. For the first time in around a decade, the Red Sox accepted applications for season tickets. That showed me something. If they had put out a competitive exciting team that played good baseball, the franchise would have continue to rebuild fan interest, but instead they followed up 2013 with this atrocity. This team plays poorly. It is completely uninteresting, and the players seem not to care. Have the players had a team meeting yet? Isn't it about time that they did? Fans don't want to watch this caliber of baseball. It doesn't matter what they did last year. They are not going to plunk down hundreds of dollars to be bored and aggravated in an uncomfortable seat. This kind of baseball loses the interest of the casual fan and it angers the die-hard fan. The franchise needs both groups of fans to make the profit it expects. Die-hard fans are there year in and year out. The casual fan will spend his or her money on something else, and it is very difficult to win them back. It has nothing to do with "entitlement". Another season like 2012 will damage the franchise from a business perspective. The FO will be forced to take some immediate measures to turn the tide. Too much money is at stake. As for the notion of fan "entitlement", I guess that I suffer from some of that, but it has nothing to do with post-2003 success. Since 1967 when I started watching the Sox they had never had a 90 loss season until 2012. In fact, they very rarely finished below .500. I have come to expect a team that plays over .500 ball year in and year out that plays some meaningful games at least until September. That is what I have become conditioned to expect over 6 decades, and every ownership group (including some real cheapskates) have been able to meet that expectation. So yes, I don't expect my baseball season to be over by July 1st, and if it is over, the FO is guilty of putting together a really s***** team.

This is really unchartered waters for me. Before this, the worst Red Sox season that I had seen in 46 years was 2012. When they made the huge trade with LA and followed that up with the magical 2013 season, I thought that the horror of 2012 was behind us. This year is spiraling out of control worse than 2012. I really can't fathom this on the heels of last year's magic. What was 2013 - an aberration, a perfect dream season? Were all the stars just perfectly aligned? It' s hard to bask in last years glory when the team is embarrassing itself. Only the 1997 Marlins sandwiched a championship between sub .500 seasons and there FO made a mockery of the 1998 team. The Sox are very depressing to watch right now. I think that I will need to pursue a hobby rather than subject myself to this garbage for my mental state. The only summer that I didn't watch the Sox religiously was the 1994 strike season. This is brutal.

We score 9 runs and lose by 7 runs. You must be kidding!

We are making a move for last place and the worst record in baseball.

Bogaerts looks like he is going to piss himself when there are men on base.

At least Remy can giggle.

Great pitching and no hitting followed by lots of hitting and terrible pitching. The season to prove Murphy's Law.

4 batters, no outs, 3 runs. It's time to go get him.

This game is close to over.

We are not very far ahead of the last place Rays.

I get that the people who played soccer are into it. I have found commonality among those who have never played soccer but were into it. Mainly they were people that had never played an organized sport such as baseball, football or basketball at any level. This is not a scientific survey. It is just my own experience.

It will take time, but maybe expectations are just a bit high for the kid.

Hopefully Bogaerts will achieve stardom, but sometimes big time prospects turn out like Andy Marte.

I don't think a RH bat would be too costly. Some team will make a move for such a bat and it will not cost that much. As for the magic being gone, losing becomes a cancer, but that can be reversed. A few nice wins and well played games can get the juices flowing again.

The outlook is definitely bleak at this point, but I am not ready for the FO to hoist the whote flag. It's only July 2nd. This much can be reasonably concluded. The current roster does not have the offensive potency to turn things around even if Drew starts hitting up to his capability. Victorino will hopefully come back healthy to give us a shot in the arm. It will also get some dead wood out of the lineup. They should be able to pick up a serviceable RH bat without mortgaging the future. Don't ask me to name names. That's not my job. It can be done. Add 2 productive bats (Victorino and a new guy) to our order and we start winning a lot of these one run games. Couple the 2 new bats with Pedroia coming out of his funk and Drew hittin at least 100 points more and the offense can turn things around. I can't believe that the same team as last season minus Ellsbury is a 90 plus loss team. I just can't get to that conclusion. If they blow things up now, IMO they lose more games than the 2012 squad. That would be very painful, and essentially we would be without meaningful baseball for 9 months. That will seem like an eternity

yep. We need Victorino back in addition to a new bat. Bradley could then be sent to the minors and bogaerts could go back to SS with Holt moving to 3rd.

there is another choice. They could get a bat and try to get over .500 and compete for a Wild Card.

It is only July 1st. Do you know how long the hot stove season will seem if it starts now? It will seem like a prison sentence.

1 run in 2 games against the Cubs? Time to get a bat or have a sale. There is just not enough firepower on this roster to change course.

I can't believe that we are going to lose a home series to this stinking pile from Chicago.

Are we going to delude ourselves into believing that Edwin Jackson's career has turned a corner?

that doesn't mean that he is not getting worked around. They work around him in big spots. There are much fewer of those this season. In past seasons, there were more opportunities. Now, he is getting challenged in spots that are meaningless.