You are free to disagree, and my statement was a broad generalization. Nevertheless, none of the pitchers that you mentioned belong in Papelbon's category. Bell never had a season with more than 2 saves until he was age 31. By that time Paps had 262 Saves. Also, by big, I didn't mean fat. Paps is 6'4". Bell is only 6'3". Similarly, Valverde's first big season was at age 29, but that big boy has been pretty durable if not consistent. Francisco Cordero had his first big season at age 28 and he never was Papelbon's equal. He stayed pretty consistent through age 36, so he too is durable. Two of these 3 guys you brought up support my statement that it is hard to wear out the these big boys at the rate of 60 innings a year. It should be pretty easy to come up with a few exceptions to such a broad general statement, but you whiffed on all three like a bad Salty plate appearance.