BigPapiEnFuego

Goddamn, I love this site.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/10/red_sox_deny_re.html looks like this was taken really seriously. all the pitchers, francona and the FO all released statements denying it.

I don't even care anymore

Thats part of the problem with Beckett though. All that beer drinking and friend chicken f***s you up health wise. The trainers got on him about it because he was getting out of shape, and he didn't do anything about it. It's not the organizations total responsibility to baby him and make sure he is in shape, it's his own responsibility. I think this type of ******** is one of the reasons why he is a shot in the dark going into any year. He's been doing this since 2003, and look how often he is getting hurt from little stupid injuries or just imploding every so often. I could deal with him being a prick if he acted a little bit more responsibly. It isn't a coincidence that the 2 guys who are connected to this whole clubhouse thing were either ineffective or had health problems. If Beckett didn't do dumb crap like this i'm sure he'd be in the top 5 pichers in the league every year, but nope. And who cares if he was chilling in the clubhouse? Francona cared, and they didn't give a damn. In Beckett's Marlins days Jack McKeon cared, and Beckett didn't listen back then to the point McKeon had to chase him out the clubhouse with a bat and lock the doors and had to issue bathroom passes like he was a f***ing elementary school teacher. People need to stop excusing these dudes for the dumb s*** they do, just because they are fiercely competitive or things like that.

That really was a stupid move on Henry's part. Really stupid.

Youk isn't the core of anything.

And this was just on the globe's site: What a dick. Trade him to the Astros.

Tie Game! Brandon Inge solo homer!

If the Tigers don't win the World Series this year I bet they will within the next 3. I love watching this team.

Oh, I thought it was a homer. Thanks.

Porcello is the freakin man

Theres more reports?

What happened? I went to get cake and the score is 2-0. Awesome

Wow. I'm willing to bet that if Crawford isn't surrounded by jerks in the upcoming years he's going to produce like he did in Tampa. Him and Gonzalez always did seem to have good personalities. They did seem uncomfortable this year and after all this info came out I can understand why.

And I like the Heath Bell idea. Seems like he'd be a good leader. Papelbon is a headcase, let him go. Ban alcohol in the clubhouse also. Set up rules about the players needing to be in good condition. If they slack, fine them. In that article it said something like "It's hard to have a trainer making 80,000 to force a pitcher making 15 million to stay in shape". Well then the front office should back those trainers. John Lackey or Beckett want to bitch about something like that? Bench them, make them miss a start. Embarrass them. I don't give a damn if they are millionaires and want to get all disgruntled, in the end they are EMPLOYEES and should be treated as such.

I've been thinking, Curt Schilling should get interviewed for manager. He wouldn't take none of this s*** going on. He'd command respect. And when he was a player he knew everything about the entire league. I never saw anyone more prepared. It even seems like after he left the team went downhill sort of, like he had some sort of influence over Tito. And he was obviously a clubhouse leader in his time here.

You know, I'd take things a bit more seriously and try to have an intelligent conversation, but I get put off when I try to and get a snide remark like "Try again, please". To be honest, get the f*** over yourself.

Oh boy. Your level of mad is quite hilarious and entertaining. But good job on completely missing the point of my post, getting butthurt on one sentence, and also trying your best to dissect my post and make it look like I don't know what the f*** I'm saying when it's all just actually going over your head.

Wow. That Francona one is a big surprise. Probably accounts for his slowness in relieving pitchers and other decisions this year If this is all true though, it's a huge disappointment. It'll be hard for me to look at this team the same next year

Holy s***. What a bunch of *******s. Also, I can't view the article because Boston.com does this stupid thing where it wants me to become a member to read stuff. Not letting me access this article. Mind posting it all?

Yeah, and Jacoby Ellsbury's .360 average as a rookie in the 2007 postseason series is irrelevant. It's probably irrelevant today also that Verlander was in the top 10 in Cy Young voting, top 20 in MVP, and rookie of the year in 2006. He was one of the best pitchers in the league then, and ever since.But wait a minute, did you just factor out the regular season because it's convenient for you? I thought that mattered too. Really, every time you discuss something with people on this site you try to fault their argument EVERY TIME with either "small sample size", "straw man", "irrelevant" or something of the sort... It'd be nice to see you not do that just once. In the end, Verlander hasn't shown himself to be a great post season pitcher. Therefore, in the post season, his team may be at a disadvantage when he pitches regardless of how much talent he has or what he did in the regular season.

Verlander has pitched a total of 34 innings in the postseason in his career, and has a 5.71 era, 2-3 record, and 1.5 whip. No matter how you want to spin that, that's bad. Screw sample sizes.

130. I missed obvious ones like Clemens though, wtf.

Screw Texas. Go Detroit!

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