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It will be a few prospects. Their is no way Theo is staying in Boston. He is getting a promotion so we can't really hold a case of keeping him. No way John Henry keeps Theo now. Prospects.. Three tops.

As I said before, I believe he has been made to come out. PR knows Lester still has alot of credibilty with the fans. It's a PR stunt IMO as Beckett and Lackey are being shopped.

This. 110% this.

I'm not buying it mate. These guys are grown men. They tuned Tito out. Lester admits that. Tito called a meeting after the Toronto game because he knew things weren't going well at all. It doesn't matter what they did at the start or in the middle of the season, when it counted they didn't commit themselves to winning. The clubhouse was the problem. Sorry but you don't go 2 - 17 in 4 weeks for no reason. There were huge problems in the clubhouse. Maybe it wasn't the entire reason for the collapse but it had a lot to do with it. And to lay blame all on Tito and Theo is a bit rich. These dudes are grown men, if you respect your manager who apparently means alot to you and your family you don't take advantage of him.

It was a "team source" who leaked this whole thing in the first place. That's why Lester has had to come out.

I work in the media as a journalist and I'm glad this has come out. Hopefully it makes these millionaire prima donna's more accountable and changes the clubhouse culture for te good.

Apparently their is another team source stating the only half of what Lester said is true. http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/17/sox-source-jon-lesters-comments-today-only-told-part-of-the-story/ Who knows if it's true or credible. But I dont believe alot of what he said. Does the "shelf life" comment piss anyone else off? As I said I reckon this a PR stunt to try and clear Lester's name or smooth it over. I doubt Beckett and / or Lackey do similar.

http://bostonglobe.com/sports/2011/10/17/jon-lester-admits-rally-beers-clubhouse/dDf7SHGnt2Lfhitw5jGFqI/story.html Don't believe alot of what he said. Pissed me off with the shelf life comment. And also he knew he was taking advantage of Tito, yet tried to make out he respected him. I think this Is Ownerships way of trying to smooth over Jon Lester's name in all of this. I'm betting Beckett and Lackey are being shopped. Just my opinion.

Both of our "all stars" are old, injury prone and have bad attitudes. Haven't won a playoff game in 3 years. You can't live off your name forever. Things go on. And to be fair Ortiz is on record saying he doesn't know if wants to come back. Great timing. Lester or Bucholz could be number 2 starters. He gave up when HE WAS NEEDED. The Red Sox are BIGGER then Josh Beckett. Papelbon is a free agent. If I'm looking to win I want the best closer avaibile. I don't care how old is he just what kinda he throws. And Heath Bell can get it done. I think we could beat Toronto without Beckett, Ortiz, Youk and Paps.