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gammons is a pompous windbag. But back to the thread...boy McCain. let 'em have it. I think it's about time. these guys are full of s*** and every one knows it. Now if they really want to clean up this mess, they outta run cheaters like bonds out of the game...I was always behind how they have treated pete rose, but now I wonder how he doesnt get in the hall if these guys are allowed to go unpunished. what a mess.

yeah I though Wells was fine, so fine that he would pitch the opened if schill wasnt okay, which it sounds like he might very well be. Did anyone catch kevin brown's line from yesterday--he got rocked!!!

oh that was a good one..haha zenny that was a good, unemotional, funny, and damn good post. I admit it..you got me good. bosoxdrool...yours well, pretty typical. does zenny wipe you or do you do that alone-yet??

more of the same out of you...tiring....you'll go to your grave without ever amditting that you were remotely wrong about anything..and call anyone ignornant who doesnt agree with you. If I had a dollar for every time some smug little unathletic dweeb said there's the next mickey mantle I'd be rich. So here's the to the next nomar or tejada who ever else you want to compare a kid with AA numbers too.. Funny thing is I hope for once you're actually right..

coincidentally, I hope you're right but until I see something tangible in AAA I think it's too early to be tossing around words like great and comparisons to allstar like tejada, and way way to early to be dreaming up new positions for the guy...let's see something in pawtucket and then oops, I mean I then we;ll see. Luckily the club has proven the willingingness to over pay some veterens rather than investing in youth with time and money... I believe your friend zenny was against signing varitek in the hopes of seeing shoppach brought along. (Oh, I wont mention edgar) Indeed, management is willing to pay a lot to avoid the risk of youth. thus, I woiuld say the chances are very good this club will re-sign damon...one of the best leaderoff hitters in baseball is still the directionI would rpefere to see us to go in--over a prospect--who to this point hasnt played above AA

wow he's 20---"all of that is behind him".um, 18 and 19 indeed are behind him..but please.how do you know??? again one of your seemingly impressive and exrtaordinarily definitive remarks about something you couldnt possibly have any knowledge of-now that I see it yet again--that's what bugs me---nothing personal mind you...just snotty remarks with this plugged in holier than thou attitude--Does he call you before he does something stupid. Hi Zenny--"yeah it's Hanley--wow, I have matured in a year..yo..yo..yo...did you see babeball america..yeah, wow. dude..yeah take care and thnaks for your support".. I strongly doubt theo will put a guy who has limited home run power and no experience in CF becasue he's a good athlete if god forbid damon leaves--a free agent a trade with a prospect like hanley, for example.... uncanny how similar they are-except for one is now an all-star and one is 20...-I still think it's a strech..kind of like the way you misquote me. I didnt say sucked in the minors...and although those guys talked about pressure--I said there is more patience on other clubs to let these guys mature, and not so in boston. How many minor leaguers have gfone through the redsox system since nomar and not been brought up--a lot. Management luckiy doesnt seem to fawn l;ike you do, and trades these guys away so they can develop on someone else's dime--so if history repeats itself we wont have to get back into this kind of debate. .

PS: Have you considered that the article in the globe and remy's remarks might be part of a concerted effort to make this kid sound more ready then he is--and thus make him more appealing as trade bait..sound slike something the bush administration might do, but it seems plausible.

RSR and yeszir have hit the nail on the head from different perspectives, and identified the real issues here and one of the intangible points that again render the Tejada comparison way of thinking again as ridiculous. Boston is boston, and oakland is oakland....teams that thrive on bringing along talent...have a certain degree of patience from management, the fans and the press , that doesnt exist in boston. The tigers had those pitchers who lost 20 losses ( i think maroth and bondemann) to get major league experience would that ever happen in boston they would be shot on sight and/or traded...booed, spat on, kicked, yelled at and worse--made to have dinner with Yanksin2010--inhuman I know but the kind of punishment reserved for real criminals. Your boy has already had some maturity issues and that might be something to consider--cold calcuated re-quoting of Baseball america prospect lists and quoting stats may sound smart, but these other guys seem to be onto something that is more relaistic...and might effect a young star developing in boston, more than big numbers in portland.

i respect remy and indeed have always agreed the guy is a prospect, I just oject to your the perpetual fawning over a prospect who is years away from being ripe. I think the Tejada conmparison is as total stretch. It's simplitistic, and pointless. There are probably loads of all-stars who dont have the numbers hanley has, and some guys who are stiffs who have better minor league numbers--in my opinion it is not a helpful way to judge talent. That being said, the redsox rarely wait for these guys to develop--hiostorically speaking, they play to win now, and usually use these guys as trade bait later on. He may turn out to be as good as you predict and he may not, but getting back to thread I would be stunned if he played center in 06 or was in the majors in 06-

there's a lot..a lot of culture here.

some of things I read from you guys just make me roar with laughter-- "followed Tejada's career path to a T"... that really makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. What they both play baseball, and were in the minors... 'It's the kind of backwards thinking than runs franchises in to the ground" I wasnt aware that my thinking had that much impact on management, or that I could be responsible for bringing nay running a franchise into the ground. I'm a fan just like you, and your definitive predictions about who will do this or that are just that predicitions. "and continue to hit the tar out of the ball.." a defintive remark, is it a promise! I just wouldnt get so jazzed about a kid who hasnt been in the show yet. You guys have him running around center field already and the guy cant even buy beer yet.

at AAA?

I agree with yeszir about one thing -he'll be ready in four years. So far he hasnt accomplished very much, but continues to overwhleming support and believers in here. How can you even mention damon and hanley in the same breath, much less youk and billy. You guys get so jazzed unproven prospects, they are a dime a dozen, I saw him play here and he couldnt get the ball out of the field. I think he had one whopping one home in A ball..He is still in AA and might stay there to start this year. I will bet anyone that hanley wont be in the organziation to play centerfield or aany position. As far as Youk goes, I frankly dont care where he plays or for whom, billy meuller is the man and hopefully will be aorund for awhile. God, I hope they re-sign damon..so this thinking can go away.. I love the quote "if he puts it all together, he could be etxremely good..."... I would like to think that applies to any one and every one. get over these guys they are 3 or 4 years away from being major leaguers, and youk is a slow utility guy at best. We have one of the best leadoff hitters in baseball and a batting champ one year removed at third. That is okay by me.

a layer cake maybe?

I forgive someone who cheats when they have the nuggets to admit it. Giambi is a man, and deserves credit for taking responsibility for his cheating..even if it was only becasue they outed him with his grand jury testimony- I would like to see them string up bonds and sheff becasue they cheat and hide behind lies to cover it. Bonds is the biggest egomanical ******* I ever seen--and that is a long list especially among athletes. I hope he doesnt break any more records, becasue he doesnt deserve them. he's a piece of s***, he even had the yum-yum's to play the poor balck guy card...his f***ing father was a major leaguer-I doubt very much Barry grew up in the ghetto or even went there. string him up... find a way to forgive giambi...I know he's yankee but in spite of that he was a man about it.

I agree but I am more inclined, to forgive a cheater who apoligizes and talks responsibility for cheating. Giambi is a man in my book, and not a lying cheating douche bag like bonds and sheff--poeple can argue all day long about steriods but they are performance enhancing drugs and illegal in the major leagues, period. Using them is cheating Bonds is a cheater his records thus have been achieved by cheating and shouldn't count. If schilling was taking them I'd like to think I would be just as brutual about it, and attempt (I said attempt) to be objective.

McCarty...McCarty

I am pleased to say that I will be seeing your hero tomorrow, as I will be attending the sure to be riveting spring training game of the reds versus the pirates.. dream do come true,.

I think it has more to do with his willingness to talk as red sox rooter points out, rather than usual grunts and groins that come out of the mouths of most of the single brain cellled athletes that comrpise the big leagues particularly in new york--not to mention most of the users deny use, and the arrogant and egomanical cocksukcers like sheff claim innocence on the subject and that wouldnt help any investigation. Schilling is articualte and in spite of his misguided politics probably able to help more than most.

Huh? I'll make this simple and easy to understand even for a yankee fan... Gary sheffield has always been an ******* and now he is on yankmees--he still is an *******, satyng things and acting like a bigger ******* than he has been in the past. If I had a lobotomy, got run over by a bus, jumped out of the window, and spent the day at Ricky Williams' house I still couldnt root for that team, what an unappealing bunch of egotistical, whining, babies...other than maybe five guys on that team,I'd say they are disgusting conglomerate of scumbags. PS: this from the daily news nowt the ny post, and it is a perfect example of why Gaey sheffield leaves a revolting after taste on any team he has been on. Boss welcomes Sheff sit-down TAMPA - George Steinbrenner says he would be willing to talk with Gary Sheffield about the right fielder's issues with his contract, but that doesn't mean The Boss is willing to alter the deal. Sheffield has been upset recently over the fact that he doesn't receive interest on the deferred money in his three-year, $39 million deal (about $4.5 million annually), and Steinbrenner said yesterday that "we'll be working on something there, see if we can get him settled down." The Yankees aren't interested in changing the deal that Sheffield negotiated himself last winter, but The Boss could sit down with the outfielder if that would help defuse the issue. "I'm willing to talk with him," Steinbrenner said. "He's a good man." Sheffield left the clubhouse quickly after yesterday's short workout and won't play in today's Grapefruit League opener. His surgically repaired left shoulder is tender, and Joe Torre said he doesn't expect to put Sheffield in the lineup until Sunday at the earliest.

what are we talking about? sheff's always been an *******... now he's a yankee and he's still an *******. I wouldnt say he is a bigger *******..than he was before... Butt all I know is that he was a member of the 2004 yankees and a large contributor to the biggest choke in baseball history. yankees suck, so do the knicks clap clap clap...

If I remember correctly sheff has been an ******* since day one....in the bigs.... I believe he has burned bridges and made enemies in milwaukee and san diego and atlanta... and now with pinstripes on he's a bigger *******.

I never particularly cared for Nomar--i thought he wasnt clutch and tended to pop up or strike consiustently at key moments, that swinging at the first pitch thing was selfish and I am not a fan of the stoic, stand-offish thing, but he was a great ball player in his own right...and a true redsox--I dont harbor the same feelings of animosity or disdain that I do for a certain big mouithed baby pitcher who left for the mets...and wish Nomar well in the future and appreciate his effort as a memeber of the sox in years past. I definitely think he desrves a ring--I dont think they should be handing them out to anyone who played an inning, but f*** it, these guys went through the wars as a team and they can and should do whatever pleases them--they have been incredibaly generous from what I've read with shares as well. Unlike those f*** head yankees who are as stingy as s*** and just total f***heads about this kind of thing (would you expect anything more)--the sox have proven what a classy a team they are and what kind of front office they have. wear your ring with pride Nomar (you wont get one with the cubs at least not this year) as he said it was a championship year and he was a part of it. Good luck this season Nomar see ya in July.

here's an excerpt: Reporter: good morning mr. bonds Bonds: f*** you Reporter #2: are taking steriods cheating Bonds: what's cheating? Reporter #1: Did you take steriods Bonds; Go f*** yourself Reporter #2" answer the question Bonds; I did, next question..and go f*** yourself. Reporter #2: do you know any players who took steriods Bonds: Why are you asking me that, because I'm black? f*** you

hey will you look at this: I agree with John word for word--especially the part about the yankees not wanting him.