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    A Plea For The Red Sox To Sign Juan Soto


    Maddie Landis

    It's great to look for surplus value, to be strategic, and to sign players who suit your roster needs. But you know what else is great? Getting the best player on the market.

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     “It’s expensive to sign baseball players,” John Henry once said, much to the chagrin of Red Sox fans. Henry’s statement rings true. Free agent contract values are increasing each year. Last offseason, Shohei Ohtani signed a 10-year, $700-million contract to play for the Los Angeles Dodgers, which broke the previous record for the most expensive professional sports contract. Previously, Mike Trout’s 12-year, $426.5-million extension was the largest contract in baseball. 

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    Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the free agent market dipped following the 2020 season. Free agents affected by the shortened pandemic season “only” inked $1.36 billion total in contracts. However, since then, the total value of free-agent contracts has risen steadily. Some players, arguably, aren’t worth their gargantuan contracts. Others are. 

    Twenty-six-year-old future Hall of Famers like Juan Soto seldom enters free agency. The Athletic projects that Soto will garner a 12-year, $540-million contract. He’s worth every penny, and the Red Sox must pursue him. 

    Sure, money is paramount to Soto, but winning comes in at a close second. It’s important to point out that the Red Sox are behemoths in recent World Series history. Since 2004, they have a 16-3 record in the World Series. On the other hand, the Yankees possess a 5-6 record. Sniping the Yankees' primary offseason target is a dub by itself.

    The Yankees' core is not sustainable. The World Series accentuated their roster construction flaws, from their shoddy defense to their inefficiency on the basepaths. Moreover, the Yankees have the second-oldest roster in the league at an average age of 29.3. Their roster is constrained by several aging superstars in the middle of expensive, long-term contracts. Gerrit Cole (34), Carlos Rodón (31), and Giancarlo Stanton (34) are being paid at least $25 million per year until 2027 or 2028. Aaron Judge has about $280 million remaining on his contract.

    As I mentioned earlier, Juan Soto is 26 years old. He’s two years younger than Rafael Devers, Jarren Duran, Tanner Houck, Kutter Crawford, and Garrett Whitlock. Soto has shown that his floor is an All-Star caliber player in six MLB seasons. His ceiling is a perennial top-10 MVP candidate and Silver Slugger winner.

    Soto would be “just another guy” in the crowded dugouts of the Yankees or Dodgers clubhouse, but he could be the star of the Red Sox. The Red Sox have a young homegrown core. Any egregious long-term contracts don’t saddle the organization. They have a strong farm system. Sustainable contention looms over the horizon, but they need someone to push them over from mediocrity. 

    Over the past couple of seasons, it seems like the Red Sox are banking on the Big Four to impact the major-league roster immediately. Putting all their eggs in one basket is a risky move. At the very least, one of the Big Four will break out in the majors. Allocating some, not all, of their resources toward a generational talent provides them with a backup plan and insurance in case any of their prospects fail to perform in the majors. 

    Opponents argue, “But Soto is a left-handed hitter! The team has too many lefties!” The roster is notably lefty-heavy, but it’s not like the Red Sox lefties can’t hit against left-handed pitching. Triston Casas and Rafael Devers hold 114 and 98 wRC+ career splits against southpaws.

    Soto is frequently likened to Ted Williams for a reason. He has no trouble hitting the ball, regardless of a pitcher’s handedness. Look at his career splits against left-handed pitching. 

    Career

    BA

    OBP

    SLG

    RBI

    HR

    K%

    wRC+

    vs LHP

    .268

    .383

    .475

    191

    56

    18.0

    135

    Wouldn't you like to see the second coming of Ted Williams spend the rest of his career in Fenway Park? Slotting Soto into the lineup would exacerbate the lefty-dominant nature of the lineup, but his career splits mark a substantial improvement over Ceddanne Rafaela (62 wRC+), Masataka Yoshida (84 wRC+), and Jarren Duran (88 wRC+).

    It's also important to remember that injuries were part of the reason the lineup was so lefty-heavy. The holes Vaughn Grissom and Trevor Story left in the infield were filled by left-handed batters David Hamilton, Dom Smith, and Enmanuel Valdez , creating a false narrative that the lineup is too reliant on left-handed batters. It should look a little more balanced next year with (fingers crossed) healthy seasons from Trevor Story and Vaughn Grissom. 

    Assuming Wilyer Abreu is traded, imagine this lineup:

    1. CF Jarren Duran (L)
    2. LF Juan Soto (L)
    3. 3B Rafael Devers (L)
    4. 1B Triston Casas (L)
    5. SS Trevor Story (R)
    6. DH Masataka Yoshida (L)
    7. C Connor Wong (R)
    8. RF Ceddanne Rafaela (R)
    9. 2B Vaughn Grissom (R)

    Beautiful, no? 

    Along with Triston Casas and Masataka Yoshida, Soto will exasperate opposing pitchers, driving pitch counts up and opposing managers insane.

    Soto could provide some cushion for Raffy and alleviate him from the burden/expectation of carrying the team’s offense. Despite being the team’s highest-paid player and the face of the franchise, Devers is notably reserved and shies away from the media. He’s not an outspoken leader, preferring to stay quiet and let his work speak for itself. This is fine, but the Boston media is intense and passionate. Soto is a showy performer and doesn’t shy away from the spotlight. By taking center stage in the organization, he would reduce pressure from the media. 

    Lefties with opposite field power can take advantage of the Green Monster and Soto is no exception. He pulled the ball more frequently while playing in Yankee Stadium last year, but he's capable of spraying the ball all over the field.

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    Soto would pepper Lansdowne Street with home runs. He could easily hit 50+ home runs playing 81 games at Fenway each year. Heck, he might surpass David Ortiz’s single-season record of 54 home runs.

    Speaking of which, like David Ortiz, Soto is Dominican. He plays for the Dominican World Baseball team. The Red Sox have a strong history of Dominican baseball stars. Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, and Manny Ramirez’s contributions to the 2004 Red Sox will never be forgotten. This past spring, the organization recently updated its Dominican Academy and played an exhibition series in Santo Domingo (Soto’s hometown). Juan Soto grew up idolizing Manny, Pedro, and Big Papi. Why not join Rafael Devers and Brayan Bello to form a new Dominican trio?

    Smart investments matter for sustainable contention. You can’t put a brand-new 2025 Ferrari 812 GTS engine in a 1995 PT Cruiser and expect the car to run smoothly. You also can’t keep “fixing” glaring holes with Band-Aids and expect a winning product on the field. The Red Sox indicated they’ll stop cosplaying as a small market team and are ready to spend. Simply spending for the sake of spending isn’t sustainable. They must be cognizant of where they're allocating their resources. 

    That said, the Red Sox have a list of things that need fixing in the offseason. Their outfield was a bright spot on the team and doesn’t necessarily need any additional help.  However, landing a generational talent like Soto should take precedence over their other issues, and the Red Sox must be proactive. Pursue Soto and let the rest of the roster sort itself out.

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    8 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    I love it when the Red Sox have stars, but Soto is not a realistic target for the Red Sox.  For one thing, that 12 year/540 million projection is the most "conservative" one I've seen.  Most estimates are in the 600 to 700 million range.    

    The 3 financial behemoths of the sport, the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers, are all expected to be bidders.  Cohen and Steinbrenner have already lined up their first meetings with Boras.

    I simply can't see John Henry wanting to get involved in an auction that is certain to end in a historically irrational contractual commitment.

    Better to dream on Anthony and Duran as stars in the outfield and keep the focus on pitching, IMHO.

     

    The Red Sox are worth $4.05 billion, third most valuable franchise in MLB. They can be a financial behemoth if they so choose…

    10 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    This is the time of year to dream, but any Sox fan who thinks Soto is a real possibility under the ownership of John Henry is so delusional that yes, I have to laugh at it (not in a mean way, though).  I'm just surprised that Sox fans can continue to be fooled after what we've seen starting with trading Betts.

     

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    23 hours ago, jdc69 said:

    I can't stand Soto, standing up there, trying to intimidate the pitcher all the time. I agree we need another big bat but we should spend money on pitching, relief pitching and a right hand batter. How about Pete Alonso?

    How old do you think Soto really is. I would say 28 at the youngest. There's no way he is 26

    On 11/9/2024 at 10:02 AM, Bellhorn04 said:

    I'll take it a step further and say I think chasing Soto would be a very bad idea.

    We have 4 terrific prospects and they're all position players.

    What we need is pitching and better defense.  Soto is nether.

    Soto is looking for an AAV of about $50 million.  That would create havoc with the budget.  Soto and Devers would be taking up $80 million of it for a long time.  How are you going to do that, pay the pitchers and sign Anthony to an extension etc.?  Do you think Henry is going to morph into Cohen all of a sudden?

    Gotta be realistic here. 

    1.  Yes they are all position players, but they are all also easily tradable for pitching, which makes them a more reliable source of pitching than pitching prospects.

    2.  Soto is a laughable Gold Glove nominee, but the Sox could also use a superstar talent.  Soto is just that, and playing him in LF fits in with the Boston tradition of Hall of Fame left fielders.

    3.  You’ve been talking up the Sox as the third most valuable franchise in MLB.  The problem isn’t whether or not the Sox can afford him, but only whether or not they want to.  They probably don’t, but it’s a poor excuse.  Matt Fried and Corbin Burnes might give you 2 or 3 decent years on a 7 year deal.  Soto might give you 10 great/eventually good season on a 14 year deal.  The Sox need the latter more than the former…

    15 minutes ago, notin said:

    Matt Fried and Corbin Burnes might give you 2 or 3 decent years on a 7 year deal.  Soto might give you 10 great/eventually good season on a 14 year deal.  The Sox need the latter more than the former…

    Fried and Burnes might get $150-200 million.

    Soto might get $650-700 million.

    Whichever way you go, there's going to be a pile of risk baked into the price.  Anyone can get injured any time.

    There's really no sound principles on which to compare the options.  We're in the world of the irrational here, where fragile athletes get decade-plus guaranteed mega-contracts.  

    I just think that $650-700 million number is way, way too high for John Henry to even consider.  After all, $350 million for Betts was obviously enough to make him very uneasy, and that wasn't forever ago.  And Betts was arguably at least as good a bet as Soto, even given their official* age difference.

    * Someone else opened up the age rabbit hole, I'm just acknowledging its existence.

     

     

    2 hours ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Fried and Burnes might get $150-200 million.

    Soto might get $650-700 million.

    Whichever way you go, there's going to be a pile of risk baked into the price.  Anyone can get injured any time.

    There's really no sound principles on which to compare the options.  We're in the world of the irrational here, where fragile athletes get decade-plus guaranteed mega-contracts.  

    I just think that $650-700 million number is way, way too high for John Henry to even consider.  After all, $350 million for Betts was obviously enough to make him very uneasy, and that wasn't forever ago.  And Betts was arguably at least as good a bet as Soto, even given their official* age difference.

    * Someone else opened up the age rabbit hole, I'm just acknowledging its existence.

     

     

    A Betts vs Soto argument is another type of rabbit hole.  But regardless of which one is better, the reality is one of those two superstars in unavailable, and this lack of availability has created some unrest among the money-paying fanbase directed solely at the owner.

    If Henry wants to create an unrivaled upswing in enthusiasm, no player - and definitely not Burnes nor Fried - is going to create it more than Soto.

    Soto is expensive, and more expensive than Betts.  But the money is going up.  If you don’t pay now, what are you waiting for?  Does anyone think the next 26yo free agent superstar will be cheaper?

    52 minutes ago, smokedogg1982 said:

    There's been a lot of speculation online about his age. I have heard estimates as high as 31. 

    I see. I've only heard about them doing that for little league players but I dont doubt it. He's good and was the best player in two WS but he's just too much money for one player and doesn't even cover our weaknesses. 

    17 hours ago, notin said:

    A Betts vs Soto argument is another type of rabbit hole.  But regardless of which one is better, the reality is one of those two superstars in unavailable, and this lack of availability has created some unrest among the money-paying fanbase directed solely at the owner.

    If Henry wants to create an unrivaled upswing in enthusiasm, no player - and definitely not Burnes nor Fried - is going to create it more than Soto.

    Soto is expensive, and more expensive than Betts.  But the money is going up.  If you don’t pay now, what are you waiting for?  Does anyone think the next 26yo free agent superstar will be cheaper?

    Hey, I'd love to have him too.  But bidding against the Yankees, Mets and Dodgers is not really a formula for getting a fair deal.

    This is so reminiscent of the Yamamoto talk last year.  

    Maybe Anthony will be a superstar and they'll lock him  up early.

    I certainly would be excited if the Sox sign Soto, and they have the room for it in their budget.  My issue is, if they plan on continuing to stay under the luxury tax, they won't have room for much else and that means trading top prospects. 

    I think you pay for a guy like Soto going $45 million plus a year because you're paying a guy the league minimum elsewhere on the roster.  That's how elite teams like LA do it, even though they spend big, they have good homegrown players built around their FA superstars. 

    I don't want the big 4 touched.  I think you trade Duran with Soto on the roster and get a TOTRS, between him/Crawford/and prospects 6-10 I think you can get a lot. 

    If the Sox were willing to return to the "hey will go above the Luxury tax for a year or two" they could still sign Soto and go out and get guys like Fried/Turner and still be in a position to reset the luxury tax in two years.  If you want to do that and keep Duran, I think you can make Rafaela your super utility guy and roll with an outfield of 

    LF SOTO

    CF Duran

    RF Anthony

    If that's your team, adding a pitcher and having multiple legit superstars around a growing young core, this team will be light years better next year BUT.......John Henry. 

    I'm honestly surprised how many folks are entertaining this as a real world possibility. 

    For John Henry to out-crazy Steve Cohen would be the most shocking and hilarious 180% turn by a sports owner in history.

    One big real world problem is that Henry has other owners to answer to, whereas Cohen does not. 

    7 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    I'm honestly surprised how many folks are entertaining this as a real world possibility. 

    For John Henry to out-crazy Steve Cohen would be the most shocking and hilarious 180% turn by a sports owner in history.

    One big real world problem is that Henry has other owners to answer to, whereas Cohen does not. 

    I don’t think anyone expects the Sox to sign Soto.  But the premise that they cannot afford him is also a complete fallacy.  I don’t expect anything more than a cursory attempt to sign him that serves two purposes.  1) Keeps that bidding elevated, if only slightly, and 2) gets that all important link to him in the media that they tried….

    22 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

    I certainly would be excited if the Sox sign Soto, and they have the room for it in their budget.  My issue is, if they plan on continuing to stay under the luxury tax, they won't have room for much else and that means trading top prospects. 

    I think you pay for a guy like Soto going $45 million plus a year because you're paying a guy the league minimum elsewhere on the roster.  That's how elite teams like LA do it, even though they spend big, they have good homegrown players built around their FA superstars. 

    I don't want the big 4 touched.  I think you trade Duran with Soto on the roster and get a TOTRS, between him/Crawford/and prospects 6-10 I think you can get a lot. 

    If the Sox were willing to return to the "hey will go above the Luxury tax for a year or two" they could still sign Soto and go out and get guys like Fried/Turner and still be in a position to reset the luxury tax in two years.  If you want to do that and keep Duran, I think you can make Rafaela your super utility guy and roll with an outfield of 

    LF SOTO

    CF Duran

    RF Anthony

    If that's your team, adding a pitcher and having multiple legit superstars around a growing young core, this team will be light years better next year BUT.......John Henry. 

    This is the way. 

    1. Sign Soto.

    2. Trade for Crochet. I think this can be done without touching the top 5.

    3. Sign 2 backend bullpen pieces. 

    4. Sign a catcher and rhb, something like Kelly and Grichuk.

    5. Hope that Story/Yoshida have a productive year and maybe the financial sting of moving them next year will not be that painful. Keep Mayer in AAA.

    6. This can all be done while staying under the the CBT threshold of 241M.

     

     

    5 minutes ago, notin said:

    I don’t think anyone expects the Sox to sign Soto.  But the premise that they cannot afford him is also a complete fallacy.

    That's probably because "afford" isn't the right word.  The question is whether $650-700 million for any player is a rational expenditure.  I think John Henry's opinion is that it is not.  He already demonstrated this at a much smaller number with Betts.

    16 hours ago, jdc69 said:

    I see. I've only heard about them doing that for little league players but I dont doubt it. He's good and was the best player in two WS but he's just too much money for one player and doesn't even cover our weaknesses. 

    I can agree Soto is probably too old for Little League…

    8 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    That's probably because "afford" isn't the right word.  The question is whether $650-700 million for any player is a rational expenditure.  I think John Henry's opinion is that it is not.  He already demonstrated this at a much smaller number with Betts.

    True, but at that time Betts was among the most expensive players in MLB.  Now he’s making Corey Seager money.  
     

    If the argument is its irrational, then the Sox are likely out on all top tier free agents, since I don’t see Burnes or Fried signing for rational money either…

    3 minutes ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Mike Trout is out there as another example that even the best of the best can have their careers derailed any time.  And Trout was a better player than Soto is.  And Soto will be getting about 50% more money than Trout's extension was.

    Or Ohtani.   Already in year two, there are reports he might not be back for opening day.  Not to mention his two-way status is hanging by a thread-thin tendon in his elbow that puts his entire career on the mound one pitch away from an abrupt ending.  Something the Dodgers knew even before negotiations started.

     

    But the Sox are at least in a similar position with lots of minimum wage talent right on the cusp of MLB that does make Soto more affordable, even if they don’t pursue him…

    23 hours ago, smokedogg1982 said:

    How old do you think Soto really is. I would say 28 at the youngest. There's no way he is 26

    Whatever his age says on bref. There is an outspoken agent on TikTok who has spoken out against other latin ballplayers and their ages (Pujols for example) but states unequivocally that Soto is legit. 

    Automatically assuming Soto isn't the age he is because he's so good, it pretty unfair to him. Their were rumors about Pujols going back to his FA signing with the Angels. There are no real rumors about Soto, just a lot of fans that probably wish the game looked a little differently. 

    25 minutes ago, win red sox said:

    This is the way. 

    1. Sign Soto.

    2. Trade for Crochet. I think this can be done without touching the top 5.

    3. Sign 2 backend bullpen pieces. 

    4. Sign a catcher and rhb, something like Kelly and Grichuk.

    5. Hope that Story/Yoshida have a productive year and maybe the financial sting of moving them next year will not be that painful. Keep Mayer in AAA.

    6. This can all be done while staying under the the CBT threshold of 241M.

     

     

    In my offseason roster page I picked Crochet to be on the 26 man and traded for, but the more I think about it the more I do not like him. 

    He's never pitched more than 146 innings his entire life, now that may not mean anything, but he could be in for an injury, we have no ideal if he's the type of guy who can do 150-175 or more year in and year out.  That's risky. 

    He also said at the trade deadline he would refuse to pitch in the playoffs if traded for and not extended.  That was a red flag that threw a lot of teams off.  That kinds sounds a little crappy and entitled, I wouldn't mind him in Boston, but I don't think you can let a guy like that be your ace.  That's why I'm back on the FA wagon. 

    1 hour ago, Bellhorn04 said:

    Yeah, I took a quick look into it and there doesn't seem to be any evidence other than he was exceptionally big and strong for his age.     

    An ultra-elite athlete then? What a surprise. We don't know how he'll age, but there have always been guys that were absolute units at age 18.

    13 minutes ago, notin said:

    True, but at that time Betts was among the most expensive players in MLB.  Now he’s making Corey Seager money.  
     

    If the argument is its irrational, then the Sox are likely out on all top tier free agents, since I don’t see Burnes or Fried signing for rational money either…

    Betts signed a below market deal!

    34 minutes ago, notin said:

    I don’t think anyone expects the Sox to sign Soto.  But the premise that they cannot afford him is also a complete fallacy.  I don’t expect anything more than a cursory attempt to sign him that serves two purposes.  1) Keeps that bidding elevated, if only slightly, and 2) gets that all important link to him in the media that they tried….

    Brez should sign Soto while Henry isn't paying attention. 

    If they keep underspending, you know where the money is going and where the priorities lie:

    Last July, the Boston Planning and Development Agency approved Fenway Corners, “a $1.6 billion mixed-use project that will bring offices, labs, apartments, a slew of retailers, and street-level upgrades along Jersey Street, Brookline Avenue, and Van Ness Street,” according to the Boston Globe. The construction on the eight-building build has not yet begun.

    “Obviously, the brand new 5,000-person MGM Music Hall that sits just behind the right field bleachers opened about two years ago and has really enhanced the neighborhood,” Kennedy said. “We have not broken ground on our Fenway Corners project yet given the environment for real estate development. We’re not there yet, but hopefully we’re inching closer to that. If you have a chance to look on the BPDA’s website, you can see what Jersey Street is going to look like down the road with retail hotels and residential. I just think this neighborhood is going to continue to be upgraded into 2025 and beyond.”

    24 minutes ago, mvp 78 said:

    Betts signed a below market deal!

    Was it below market?

    At the time it was the 2nd largest amount of money ever given. 

    It was signed during Covid, when there was a ton of uncertainty in the world and in sports.  That might have motivated him to sign that contract. 

    I will always wonder, if in a non covid reality, if Betts would have gone to FA.  I think he would have but we will never really know. 

    10 minutes ago, Hugh2 said:

    Was it below market?

    At the time it was the 2nd largest amount of money ever given. 

    It was signed during Covid, when there was a ton of uncertainty in the world and in sports.  That might have motivated him to sign that contract. 

    I will always wonder, if in a non covid reality, if Betts would have gone to FA.  I think he would have but we will never really know. 

    1. I was doing a TalkSox goof.

    2. I don't believe COVID had any impact. 

    3. The guys at his level are now being paid more so his contract is now below market. I'd much rather have Mookie than Soto. 

    4. The Dodgers should trade Mookie! 




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