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Royals (Dobnak) vs Red Sox (Suarez): 9/12/26, 4:10pm

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  MON TUE WED THU FRI TOT
Wyatt Olds 30 0 20 0 0 50
Raymond Burgos 0 33 0 0 0 33
Jovani Morán 0 0 12 0 23 35
Greg Weissert 0 16 0 0 18 34
Garrett Whitlock 15 0 0 0 0 15
Erik Miller 0 0 0 0 12 12
Aroldis Chapman 0 0 0 0 0 0
Alec Gamboa 12 0 12 0 0 24
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55 minutes ago, Duran Is The Man said:

the good thing is we won't have to see Weissert or Moran today.

Both have been okay over the full season in their intended roles, but yes, they have struggled for over a month.

I wouldn't mind seeing both back for 2027 as the #7-8 pen guys only.

Knowing Brez- both will be traded.

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51 minutes ago, moonslav59 said:

Both have been okay over the full season in their intended roles, but yes, they have struggled for over a month.

I wouldn't mind seeing both back for 2027 as the #7-8 pen guys only.

Knowing Brez- both will be traded.

as well as he has upgraded the entire pitching staff, if he does trade both of them, i have confidence that their replacements will do better.

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1 hour ago, Duran Is The Man said:

as well as he has upgraded the entire pitching staff, if he does trade both of them, i have confidence that their replacements will do better.

Some of Brez's moves have been more miss than hit, but the overall improvement of the pitching staff has been a plus in his resume.

The state of our pitching staff from single A to the MLB level has been a weak area for many years and maybe even decades. The young pitcher acquisition and development area had been abysmal.

It's easy to point to Sale, Harrison, Drohan and Priester and think Brez is a bonehead, but when you look at the whole pitching picture, our move from near perennial last place finishes to a playoff level team is almost totally a result of the turnover of the pitching rosters.

I'm pretty sure the total amount of turnover is unprecedented in the last half century of Sox history, at least in a successful sense. Maybe some of the bad teams saw more turnover in a 3 year span, but I'm not so sure. In many cases, Brez added pitchers he later dealt away, and it is these cases that makes me think the "unprecedented" term is correct.

Using 78 different pitchers at the MLB level over a 3 year span is not record-breaking, as far as I know. 4 of them were everyday players used in a mop-up roll, so the actual number is 74, or about 25 per season, but this is 25 different pitchers per season. The turnover at the minor league level is perhaps more extreme, as no Sox GM has traded, drafted, IFA signed and MiLB FA signed combined prospects than Brez.

Here is the end of year 2023 pitching roster of remaining pitchers:

MLB: Bello, Houck, Crawford, Whitlock, Kelly

AAA: None

AA: Angel Bastardo, I Coffey, Olds

A+: Monegro, Rogers, Song (reacquired,) Sena

A-: Duffy, Mullins, Paez (re-acquired)

FCL: Wehunt, Carlson

I may have missed one or two, but you get my point.

The other side of the coin...

Notable Pitchers in the 2026 system acquired by Brez:

MLB: Crochet, Gray, Suarez, Tolle, Bennett, Sandoval, Oviedo, Chapman, Slaten, Miller, Guerrero, Weissert, Moran, Gamboa, Burgos, Rivera, Paez, Samaniego

AAA: Holobetz, Ziehl, Song, Harris

AA: Futrell, C Adams, Vogatsky, Brooks

A+: Brown, Mayers, Gilman, Morgan, Finley, Phillips

A-: Delzine, Foutch, Tolbert, B Ortiz, J Bello, Montero, Judice, Y Ruiz

FCL/DSL: LaFavor, Cason, Jak Gamboa, Adetuyi, Davenport, Lanman, Kranzler, Volmerding, Evangelista, Pereira, Pineda, Cordero

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See what the Sox batters do over 1st 3 innings. At least once through the order

Can they produce 1 or more runs ?

Will Ranger hold the mighty Royals to 0 or 1 run ?

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4 minutes ago, Bagwell Anderson said:

Anthony once again proving ineptitude in the lead off spot 

Career batting first:

.381 OBP (.831 OPS is the best of all slots.)

.333 OBP before today is not great, but it still beats Duran and the team as a whole.

Team .307 (.684 OPS)

Duran .264 (.667)

No doubt, he hasn't been helpful, this year, but he's not a major reason our leadoff slot has sucked this year.

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3 minutes ago, Bagwell Anderson said:

Story just cannot hit the slider.   Can’t lay off and chases like he’s never seen one before. I’d rather see Monasterio 

I would too. Story needs to grab some pine

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So I opened with a comment about giving the Sox 3 innings to show something on offense

No hits, no baserunners, no nothing

They are being perfect gamed at home.  But everyone wants to talk about WC rotation. and various wonderful stats.

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1 minute ago, Duran Is The Man said:

Dobnak making the Sox batter look like fools.

Sox batters would make Sandoval look strong

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