5/20 SOX @ Rays 6:50PM ET

[Maxbialystock]

Back to the CERA topic. I though McGuire did an excellent job tonight.

[Old Red]

Good pitching, HR’s, throwing the leather around, and a win at Tampa. Good game all the way around. Not to mention Raffy sets a Red Sox record on HR’s, and even he threw some leather around. Devers Forever for another day anyways.

[moonslav59]

SEA beat NYY and STL is up on BAL in the 7th.

[Old Red]

SEA beat NYY and STL is up on BAL in the 7th.

 

Outside of when the Yankees, and O’s are playing the Red Sox I could care less if they win every game, or lose every game.

[moonslav59]

Good to see Slaten get right back on track after that awful game vs STL.

 

He has really just had 2 bad games (maybe 3) out of 17.

 

He still has more to prove, but he's looking like a nice snag from Rule 5, once again, for the Sox.

 

These 2-3 inning pitchers help save the pen from overwork.

[moonslav59]

Back to the CERA topic. I though McGuire did an excellent job tonight.

 

Dusty Baker understood the value of catcher-pitcher dynamics by trotting out Maldanado, day after day, despite having very good hitting catchers on the bench.

 

Now, Dusty and Maldanado are gone. Hoiw is that working out for the 'stros?

[mvp 78]

Back to the CERA topic. I though McGuire did an excellent job tonight.

 

Oh no.

[moonslav59]

Oh no you dih-ent.

 

Fixed it for you.

 

LOL

[Maxbialystock]

Oh no.

 

I vastly prefer Wong over McGuire because Wong is athletic, has a good arm, and is smart. McGuire has that lefty bat which hasn't done much so far this season, and he's big and slow. Wong's OPS is .902 to McGuire's .639.

 

I also agree with anyone who argues CERA's are really difficult to prove.

 

Nevertheless, I've seen moonslav's numbers which say McGuire is better behind the plate.

 

So all I'm really saying is that Cora might decide now and then to use McGuire because he, Cora, thinks McGuire might be better for that pitcher against that team.

[mvp 78]

I vastly prefer Wong over McGuire because Wong is athletic, has a good arm, and is smart. McGuire has that lefty bat which hasn't done much so far this season, and he's big and slow. Wong's OPS is .902 to McGuire's .639.

 

I also agree with anyone who argues CERA's are really difficult to prove.

 

Nevertheless, I've seen moonslav's numbers which say McGuire is better behind the plate.

 

So all I'm really saying is that Cora might decide now and then to use McGuire because he, Cora, thinks McGuire might be better for that pitcher against that team.

 

Blocks Above Average:

McGuire 0

Wong -7 (last place)

 

Framing Runs:

McGuire 0

Wong -1

 

Poptime:

McGuire 1.96 (26th out of 61)

Wong 1.94 (19th)

 

Stealing Runs Above Average:

McGuire 1 (last year -1)

Wong 1 (last year 5)

 

McGuire was banged up and his defense suffered last year. Wong had some arm injuries this spring and has been slow to get control of the running game so far. If Wong wasn't so horrible at framing, I think there wouldn't be a long term question about him here.

 

Wong 392 WOBA, 307 xWOBA. The metrics aren't super thrilled about his offense going forward.

[moonslav59]

The metrics aren't super thrilled about his offense going forward.

 

Metrics can help determine if a player has inflated stats due to luck, but I'm not sure that is something that speaks to future results.

 

My guess is Wong's wOBA and xwOBA have improved over past seasons, so maybe that continues to improve, and his other numbers stay the same or don't drop as much as one might expect.

[mvp 78]

Metrics can help determine if a player has inflated stats due to luck, but I'm not sure that is something that speaks to future results.

 

My guess is Wong's wOBA and xwOBA have improved over past seasons, so maybe that continues to improve, and his other numbers stay the same or don't drop as much as one might expect.

 

Wong's xWOBA is below league average and about 30 points higher than his previous two seasons. I think his xWOBA is less than his WOBA because of his 400 BABIP, but having metrics that are bottom third (exit velo, barrel, hard hit, chase). His bb rate is bottom 3% in the league. Really bad.