9/5/23 Red Sox continue with Rays in Tropicana , 6:40 EDT

[illinoisredsox]

And some people on here says defense doesn't matter. That's 3 runs right there because of the defense

 

True, but too many Sox pitchers seem to fall apart when things go a bit awry as well. They’ve got to be mentally tougher. Kutter’s making horrible pitches all inning.

[vegasbob]

That was 18 pitches after the 3rd out should have been made on a reasonably routine run/catch , not even at the warning track. I know the roof visibility in the Trop, especially in daylight is not good but Abreu had to get that ball.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Is Cora really a manager?

 

My apologies. Cora would make one hell of a manager at a Day Care Center.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Viva Valdez!

[vegasbob]

Big hit by Valdez helps.

[illinoisredsox]

That was 18 pitches after the 3rd out should have been made on a reasonably routine run/catch , not even at the warning track. I know the roof visibility in the Trop, especially in daylight is not good but Abreu had to get that ball.

 

Agreed, but I’ll cut the kid a small break on his first series at the Trop; last night the only chance he had all night was a line drive to end the game.

[vegasbob]

Masa makes a play or did he? Looked like a clean catch on the first replay

[redsoxrules]

Masa makes a play or did he? Looked like a clean catch on the first replay

 

Doesn't look like a catch to me but not sure if enough to over turn it

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Either way it was still a nice catch.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Either way it was still a nice catch.

 

It wasn't a circus catch even though the game is being played in a circus tent.

[jung]

Doesn't look like a catch to me but not sure if enough to over turn it

 

Cash waited too long to challenge. Figures....even when Yoshi makes a good catch....its not a catch.

 

Maybe just maybe if the Sox buy a rack and stretch Yoshi out....he might at least be a LFer. Nahhhhhh

 

We have enough DH's on this team to choke a mule.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Cash waited too long to challenge. Figures....even when Yoshi makes a good catch....its not a catch.

 

Maybe just maybe if the Sox buy a rack and stretch Yoshi out....he might at least be a LFer. Nahhhhhh

 

We have enough DH's on this team to choke a mule.

 

The batter was called out so I guess it really was a catch. You shouldn't pick on people who are vertically challenged.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Another f'ing chUMP who deserves a foul tip to the mask.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Wasn't that special?

[vegasbob]

Jacques comes into Crawford's mess and immediately screws up vs a LH'er. The hitters need to come around for Boston

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

And the hits keep on cummin.

[vegasbob]

2 HBP's with bases loaded ?? Keeps the line moving, nice work. When playing bullpen roulette , Cora's odds are less than 50-50

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

2 HBP's with bases loaded ?? Keeps the line moving, nice work. When playing bullpen roulette , Cora's odds are less than 50-50

 

Pardon my French, but F Cora.

[jung]

The batter was called out so I guess it really was a catch. You shouldn't pick on people who are vertically challenged.

 

I have empathy for people that are vertically challenged. Its not Yoshi's fault that he is in our OF.

[notin]

I have empathy for people that are vertically challenged. Its not Yoshi's fault that he is in our OF.

 

Sure it is. Unless you think the Yakuza put a gun to his head when the offer was made…

[jung]

Pardon my French, but F Cora.

 

If you want to consider pitching a component of run prevention....hence defense......all in we are like a Hockey team playing without a goalie.

 

"Gee Bob I don't know how that shot got to the back of the net. Did that go through the 5 hole?"

 

"I don't know John. There is no goalie out there. So its all holes."

 

I did say way early this year that it will take MLB a couple years at least to adjust to not being able to rely on the shift to cover for bad fielders. Will take a few draft sessions at least to get more athletic defenders out there in the field. That said at some point here there is going to be a Pitcher revolt based on this everything is a hit nonsense.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Tropicana Field isn't only a disgrace to MLB; it's also a disgrace to architecture.

[notin]

Joe Jacques will be right next to Mauricio Llovera on the Players I Will Never Miss List…

[jung]

Sure it is. Unless you think the Yakuza put a gun to his head when the offer was made…

 

Its the Sox fault and its the nerds fault. "defense does not matter....we got this little guy we think can hit and we don't give a f*** if he can field or not"

 

Are you going to blame Yoshi for taking the money? Thats white of you.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Its the Sox fault and its the nerds fault. "defense does not matter....we got this little guy we think can hit and we don't give a f*** if he can field or not"

 

Are you going to blame Yoshi for taking the money? Thats white of you.

 

If you think Masa's vertically challenged defense is the big problem with the SOX, you haven't been paying attention.

[jung]

Tropicana Field isn't only a disgrace to MLB; it's also a disgrace to architecture.

 

Its not like we have torn up the Rays playing in Fenway.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Its the Sox fault and its the nerds fault. "defense does not matter....we got this little guy we think can hit and we don't give a f*** if he can field or not"

 

Are you going to blame Yoshi for taking the money? Thats white of you.

 

The SOX FO just paid a guy over 300 mil with that exact same thought.

[jung]

If you think Masa's vertically challenged defense is the big problem with the SOX, you haven't been paying attention.

 

Defense generally is a problem. Anything not hit to Verdugo or Story is an adventure.

 

And the pitching another component of run prevention is a huge problem. I would assert that Bloom is more responsible for both than Cora though I am not exactly a Cora devotee. I would likely toss both of them and start over.

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Its not like we have torn up the Rays playing in Fenway.

 

Where did that come from? I was speaking about the mausoleum with a circus tent inside. What has that got to do with the SOX?

[SPLENDIDSPLINTER]

Defense generally is a problem. Anything not hit to Verdugo or Story is an adventure.

 

And the pitching another component of run prevention is a huge problem. I would assert that Bloom is more responsible for both than Cora though I am not exactly a Cora devotee. I would likely toss both of them and start over.

 

 

 

 

We can agree on that.