Red Sox Relief Pitching 2023

[moonslav59]

Did Chang get sent down after this afternoon’s game?

 

I doubt it. EValdez was only up while Chang was on Paternity Leave.

 

We need middle IF depth. (Some might call it debt.)

[Larry Cook]

Is there no better option anywhere in our system than brazier?????

[moonslav59]

Is there no better option anywhere in our system than brazier?????

 

The short answer: No.

 

The longer one:

 

Martin IL

Joely IL

Kelly & Mills 60 Day IL

 

Paxton needs more time, and even then... ???

 

Politi has sucked in AAA. (.961 OPS Against)

Mosqueda (.909), Sherriff (.810) or Broadway (.938)? LOL.

 

Our best hope may be a few weeks away:

.736 Mata

.678 Walter

 

We need Martin back.

[mvp 78]

If a guy comes off the IL, does someone not have to be removed from the 40 man?

 

The 60 day IL only.

[mvp 78]

Only if they are on the 60 day (Story, Mondesi, Kelly & Mills.)

 

Chang would probably be DFA'd for Mondesi and he'd probably be cleared through waivers too. By the time Story is ready to come back, Mondesi will be back on the 60 day.

[mvp 78]

Is there no better option anywhere in our system than brazier?????

 

In a strict relief role on the 40 man? Not really.

[mvp 78]

The short answer: No.

 

The longer one:

 

Martin IL

Joely IL

Kelly & Mills 60 Day IL

 

Paxton needs more time, and even then... ???

 

Politi has sucked in AAA. (.961 OPS Against)

Mosqueda (.909), Sherriff (.810) or Broadway (.938)? LOL.

 

Our best hope may be a few weeks away:

.736 Mata

.678 Walter

 

We need Martin back.

 

Mata has lots of command issues and they've still kept him in a starter's role. I would transition him to a relief profile though.

 

I would leave Walter as a starter though.

[Hugh2]

The 60 day IL only.

 

Ah that is correct, I remember now. So it's only Mondesi, Mills, Story. So we don't have to DFA anyone. Braiser lives again!!!!! for a little while

[moonslav59]

Mata has lots of command issues and they've still kept him in a starter's role. I would transition him to a relief profile though.

 

I would leave Walter as a starter though.

 

Makes sense, although I doubt they switch roles, this year, with Mata.

[Hugh2]

Makes sense, although I doubt they switch roles, this year, with Mata.

 

I can see them doing it by the end of the year. He's been on the 40-man for over 3 years, and if he's still struggling with his control but could use 100 MPH out of the bullpen I can see him in that role.

[mvp 78]

Makes sense, although I doubt they switch roles, this year, with Mata.

 

They should. He has no more options after this year.

[Hugh2]

They should. He has no more options after this year.

 

Another reason to get a look out of him at the very elast in a pen role at the end of the year.

[mvp 78]

Mata 2023:

 

12 Innings

12 BB

14 K

10 H

 

It's not just one bad start either.

[mvp 78]

Another reason to get a look out of him at the very elast in a pen role at the end of the year.

 

It would make no sense to have him figure out a career change at the MLB level next season. Mata isn't a guy you can sneak through waivers. I think the writing is on the wall.

[notin]

Mata 2023:

 

12 Innings

12 BB

14 K

10 H

 

It's not just one bad start either.

 

No but it is 12 bad innings.

 

Like Sale, Mata has thrown much over the last couple seasons. There’s a chance he shakes off some rust and improves, possibly substantially…

[notin]

Mata has lots of command issues and they've still kept him in a starter's role. I would transition him to a relief profile though.

 

I would leave Walter as a starter though.

 

 

Are they worried about Mata’s role just yet? They might just want him to rack up some IP. He’s only thrown 83IP in the last 3 years total, all of it last year…

[Hugh2]

No but it is 12 bad innings.

 

Like Sale, Mata has thrown much over the last couple seasons. There’s a chance he shakes off some rust and improves, possibly substantially…

 

Maybe he's just throwing to a bad catcher.

[notin]

Maybe he's just throwing to a bad catcher.

 

Alfaro is on that roster…

[mvp 78]

Are they worried about Mata’s role just yet? They might just want him to rack up some IP. He’s only thrown 83IP in the last 3 years total, all of it last year…

 

They only have one season to figure it out. Without an option available for next year, there is more urgency to decide what his long term role is. Unless they are just going to leave him as the 8th man in the pen and not care what happens in 2024?

[mvp 78]

Alfaro is on that roster…

 

Caleb Hamilton caught each of Mata's 3 starts when you check the box scores.

[notin]

Caleb Hamilton caught each of Mata's 3 starts when you check the box scores.

 

I didn’t check, so I made a safe, accurate statement that just happened to be 100% irrelevant…

[mvp 78]

I didn’t check, so I made a safe, accurate statement that just happened to be 100% irrelevant…

 

Here's who Caleb Hamilton has caught:

Mata - 3 times

Paxton - 2 times

Dermody

Walter

 

Alfaro has caught every other start, including Whitlock and Bello's good starts.

[Larry Cook]

Mata has lots of command issues and they've still kept him in a starter's role. I would transition him to a relief profile though.

 

I would leave Walter as a starter though.

 

Mata, winkleman and Perales are struggling to find the strike zone

[Hugh2]

Mata, winkleman and Perales are struggling to find the strike zone

 

Winkleman and certainly Perales have more time to figure it out being 21 and 20, high a low a. Mata is 23 much closer to the majors. Time is running out.

[notin]

They only have one season to figure it out. Without an option available for next year, there is more urgency to decide what his long term role is. Unless they are just going to leave him as the 8th man in the pen and not care what happens in 2024?

 

All the more reason to just put him in a Bulk IP Role this year…

[Hugh2]

All the more reason to just put him in a Bulk IP Role this year…

 

I agree, I think they should keep him as a starter for now, but they should re-evaluate that late summer. Especially if they need a fresh arm or two down the stretch.

[Larry Cook]

Winkleman and certainly Perales have more time to figure it out being 21 and 20, high a low a. Mata is 23 much closer to the majors. Time is running out.

 

Makes me wonder if anybody is tracking balls and strikes at the minor league spring training facility

[mvp 78]

All the more reason to just put him in a Bulk IP Role this year…

 

Bulk innings in the pen. More frequent appearances with multiple innings.

[Maxbialystock]

Makes sense, although I doubt they switch roles, this year, with Mata.

 

Who the heck is Mata?

[mvp 78]

Who the heck is Mata?

 

https://www.milb.com/player/bryan-mata-667356