Sox DFA Sawamura, possibly Davis, too

[dgalehouse]

I just don’t see Franchy getting a look when Hosmer is back. That’s why Franchy was sent back down.

 

I meant in the outfield, not first base.

[Old Red]

I meant in the outfield, not first base.

 

But where? Pham, and Kike might not be in future plans, but I can’t see Cora sitting them.

[notin]

But where? Pham, and Kike might not be in future plans, but I can’t see Cora sitting them.

 

I can see either or both getting hurt

[Bellhorn04]

I just don’t see Franchy getting a look when Hosmer is back. That’s why Franchy was sent back down.

 

But now that the team is virtually eliminated is the time to give a guy like Cordero another look-maybe his last look.

[Bellhorn04]

Nothing to lose by giving Cordero a long look. There is no future in guys like Pham and Refsnyder.

 

Although Refsnyder has done enough to warrant bringing him back, because he's also very cheap.

[Old Red]

I can see either or both getting hurt

 

This year more than likely.

[Old Red]

But now that the team is virtually eliminated is the time to give a guy like Cordero another look-maybe his last look.

 

I’m not disagreeing, but I just don’t see Cora doing it. You

[moonslav59]

But now that the team is virtually eliminated is the time to give a guy like Cordero another look-maybe his last look.

 

I'd rather find out of Cordero is worth keeping around, now, than next year. (I think he'll still have an option, so keeping him doesn't mean on the 26 in '23.)

 

Now is precisely the time to take the trial and error approach.

 

We have a lot of tweeners on our roster, and if we add as many new faces, including 6-7 Rule 5 protectees, this winter, some will have to go.

 

Let's find out who the fringe keepers should be.

 

Now, if we have plans on bringing Kike back, and want to see if he's back to his norm, than playing him over Cordero makes sense. If we are close to 50-50 on the Pham option, same there.

 

I think we know Dugo will be back, so we could sit or DH him or Cordero and sit JD.

 

I would not play Plawecki after we call up Wong, but maybe keep him around to mentor.

 

For the most part, we are not looking for who will be next year's starters, but who deserves to hold a lower 40 man roster slot for 2023. Who provides the best depth, even if starting in AAA, next spring? We have a lot of "fringe" or "bubble" players. Others call them mediocre, but every team has them, and right now, we need to decide who are the best of the group.

Edited August 29, 2022 by moonslav59

[Old Red]

I'd rather find out of Cordero is worth keeping around, now, than next year. (I think he'll still have an option, so keeping him doesn't mean on the 26 in '23.)

 

Now is precisely the time to take the trial and error approach.

 

We have a lot of tweeners on our roster, and if we add as many new faces, including 6-7 Rule 5 protectees, this winter, some will have to go.

 

Let's find out who the fringe keepers should be.

 

Now, if we have plans on bringing Kike back, and want to see if he's back to his norm, than playing him over Cordero makes sense. If we are close to 50-50 on the Pham option, same there.

 

I think we know Dugo will be back, so we could sit or DH him or Cordero and sit JD.

 

I would not play Plawecki after we call up Wong, but maybe keep him around to mentor.

 

Duran, and Franchy had plenty of chances when the Red Sox were still in it, and neither showed very well. Playing them now just to run out the string will not show you the same thing. To keep playing Kike to see if he’s back to his so called norm wouldn’t show a thing to what he would do next year, and same with Pham. Both Kike, and Pham have played long enough to know what they bring, and what they don’t bring. Calling up Wong is fine, but only if he is in the plans for next year.

[notin]

Duran, and Franchy had plenty of chances when the Red Sox were still in it, and neither showed very well. Playing them now just to run out the string will not show you the same thing. To keep playing Kike to see if he’s back to his so called norm wouldn’t show a thing to what he would do next year, and same with Pham. Both Kike, and Pham have played long enough to know what they bring, and what they don’t bring. Calling up Wong is fine, but only if he is in the plans for next year.

 

 

Disagree.

 

Cordero has shown he can’t play 1b. But as a hitter, he’s still only had 395 PA across two seasons in Boston. Some people might not think that’s enough to decide either way.

 

If you’ve given up on the season, there’s no harm in seeing if Cordero can take the next step or two and become a reasonable hitter worthy of a bench role. Or if he can turn himself into a decent trade chip…

[Old Red]

Disagree.

 

Cordero has shown he can’t play 1b. But as a hitter, he’s still only had 395 PA across two seasons in Boston. Some people might not think that’s enough to decide either way.

 

If you’ve given up on the season, there’s no harm in seeing if Cordero can take the next step or two and become a reasonable hitter worthy of a bench role. Or if he can turn himself into a decent trade chip…

 

Ok we disagree on Franchy. You can give him more of a chance, but I don’t see Cora benching someone to give him a chance to do so.

[moonslav59]

Disagree.

 

Cordero has shown he can’t play 1b. But as a hitter, he’s still only had 395 PA across two seasons in Boston. Some people might not think that’s enough to decide either way.

 

If you’ve given up on the season, there’s no harm in seeing if Cordero can take the next step or two and become a reasonable hitter worthy of a bench role. Or if he can turn himself into a decent trade chip…

 

I don't think we'd be trying to learn if Cordero can be our LF'er or DH, next season, but rather does he deserve the 37th to 40th slot of the 40, or not.

 

It might come down to Dalbec, Cordero or take the Pham option.

It might be Cordero vs Downs for the final slot on the 40.

I'd want to know as much as possible about areas in question than areas we already know enough about.

 

Some can argue we've seen enough of some of these guys, but so many good MLB players started out slow, were never given a long look with their first club, and then go on to do well, later on.

 

It can't hurt to have some looks.

 

Right now, I think Wong and RHern are alternating at Catcher and DH. Call Wong up and let him play. It also allows RHern to catch more in AAA. Now, if they want to find out more about McGuire (starter vs back-up or even if he's good enough to take Plawecki's spot,) maybe keep Wong in AAA.

 

Perhaps pitching is where the most looks could occur, but I don't see Ort ad being someone we need to know more about, unless they view him as a #40 or #41 on the roster, and want to give him one last chance to save his slot.

[notin]

Although Refsnyder has done enough to warrant bringing him back, because he's also very cheap.

 

Like Cordero, he’s arb-eligible. He’ll still be cheap, but not a minimum wage player.

 

Still his glove does keep him in the picture…

[Fan_since_Boggs]

Perhaps the Red Sox intend to move Winckowski to the bullpen. On the other hand, it is probably too early to give up on him as a starter.

[Bellhorn04]

Perhaps the Red Sox intend to move Winckowski to the bullpen. On the other hand, it is probably too early to give up on him as a starter.

 

I suspect we should be happy if he ends up a decent pen arm. The scouting reports had him as a back-end starter at best, I think.

[moonslav59]

Probably, a lot of Sox young pitchers might be happy to just make the pen.

 

I'm not sure some can do much more at the AAA level to prove they belong, namely Wink and Seabold who both had very nice OPS Against at that level. Some say Murphy is best suited for the pen. Crawford is a tough call.

 

My guess is Mata, Bello and maybe Walter or Wikleman are our best shots at starters.

 

[Larry Cook]

I think brazier has pictures of Hang’em Chaim having a hot ham and cheese sandwich for lunch!

 

How can anybody who pitches this bad, have so many lives!