6/1/22 cin @ bos

[moonslav59]

That's great, regardless of the "metrics", I like guys that don't make errors. The "metrics" also say the sox should be 28-23, I'll stick with Parcells that says you are what your record says you are.

 

Yes, we lost over 20 games, because of Devers has made 1-2 more errors than most 3Bmen.

 

You make total sense.

[moonslav59]

6, actually.

 

Yes, and a sure quality start, if there ever was one.

[JDavis76]

Yes, we lost over 20 games, because of Devers has made 1-2 more errors than most 3Bmen.

 

You make total sense.

 

I never stated that, nice try.

[moonslav59]

I never stated that, nice try.

 

I never said you said it.

 

I said it, not you. Should I have drawn a picture?

[a700hitter]

6, actually.

Yep, I stand corrected.

[Maxbialystock]

He pitched 5 innings. He didn’t get a Quality Start.

 

That's what you gleaned? That he didn't get a quality start? You and the scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz have much in common.

[Maxbialystock]

I was just being honest about his fielding

 

Actually, you are also very insightful--stunningly so. Whereas all other baseball fans tolerate and even like errors, you stand out as a beacon of light, advocating error-free baseball.

 

What's next, pitchers who never give up hits or walks or wild pitches? Hitters who never strike out?

 

I will readily admit that Devers' two most recent errors pissed me off too, but you are absolutely and completely looney tunes to focus on his errors and, by doing so, completely ignoring his overall value to this team. His WAR (wins above replacement) of 2.6 is easily the highest on this team and his total bases, 129, are the most in MLB.

 

FYI, Brooks Robinson committed 263 errors and never fewer than 10 in a given season.

 

Of the 16 MLB thirdbasemen with the most games/innings played in MLB this season, Devers is ranked 2d in range factor. He has 6 errors, but Hayes (of the Pirates) has 7 errors and the highest DWAR (+.7) among MLB thirdbasemen. Devers' DWAR is 0.

[mvp 78]

According to Statcast:

Devers is 0 OAA this year. So he's an average defender. Seems fine to me.

[JDavis76]

Actually, you are also very insightful--stunningly so. Whereas all other baseball fans tolerate and even like errors, you stand out as a beacon of light, advocating error-free baseball.

 

What's next, pitchers who never give up hits or walks or wild pitches? Hitters who never strike out?

 

I will readily admit that Devers' two most recent errors pissed me off too, but you are absolutely and completely looney tunes to focus on his errors and, by doing so, completely ignoring his overall value to this team. His WAR (wins above replacement) of 2.6 is easily the highest on this team and his total bases, 129, are the most in MLB.

 

FYI, Brooks Robinson committed 263 errors and never fewer than 10 in a given season.

 

Of the 16 MLB thirdbasemen with the most games/innings played in MLB this season, Devers is ranked 2d in range factor. He has 6 errors, but Hayes (of the Pirates) has 7 errors and the highest DWAR (+.7) among MLB thirdbasemen. Devers' DWAR is 0.

 

Please point out where I ignore his overall value to the team, I'll wait......

[moonslav59]

Please point out where I ignore his overall value to the team, I'll wait......

 

"I like guys that don't make errors."

 

This clearly means you don't like Devers, because he makes errors. You showed he leads the league in errors by "qualified" 3Bmen, neglecting to point out others have made the same or more errors in less chances, just to emphasize your silly point.

 

Own up. You don't like Devers based on 6 errors., saying "I'll stick with Parcells that says you are what your record says you are."

 

Well, you are what your record says you are: a silly troll.

[Maxbialystock]

Please point out where I ignore his overall value to the team, I'll wait......

 

Actually, that monkey's on your back because most folks would qualify any criticism of Devers' fielding with a comment on his overall value to the team. You provided no qualifying comment, so the inevitable inference to be drawn is that his hitting is of less importance than those errors.

 

I repeat that I found those two most recent errors--and the most recent one by Bogaerts--to be very frustrating because they contributed to losses. But I recognize that for both of them their hitting more than compensates.