2022 Prospects

[mvp 78]

Sox nabbed in MiLB:

Joe Jacques PIT LHP

Ryan Miller NYY RHP

[Larry Cook]

Sox nabbed in MiLB:

Joe Jacques PIT LHP

Ryan Miller NYY RHP

 

I like the Miller signing.

[mvp 78]

@SPChrisHatfield

Catching up on some Red Sox MLFAs:

 

RHP James Norwood signed a minor league deal with NYY

 

RHP Brian Keller and OF Johan Mieses are signing with Hanshin in Japan.

[moonslav59]

I know it's not easy finding a team that is looking to take 2-3 players from the 40 man roster for 1 of there own, and who thing any combination of these guys are better than the players on the bottom of their 40, but I'd love to see us trade 3-4 of these guys for 1-2 slightly better players or prospects that don't need to be on the 40.

 

Duran

Downs

Brasier

DHern

Ort

Taylor (if we don't think he can return to form)

maybe one or two from Crawford, Seabold or Winckowski

 

This makes room for 2-4 more signings or additions through trades.

[mvp 78]

I know it's not easy finding a team that is looking to take 2-3 players from the 40 man roster for 1 of there own, and who thing any combination of these guys are better than the players on the bottom of their 40, but I'd love to see us trade 3-4 of these guys for 1-2 slightly better players or prospects that don't need to be on the 40.

 

Duran

Downs

Brasier

DHern

Ort

Taylor (if we don't think he can return to form)

maybe one or two from Crawford, Seabold or Winckowski

 

This makes room for 2-4 more signings or additions through trades.

 

I think they could dump any of those guys but Ort onto another team for a younger prospect. I believe that's how we have received guys like Koss in the past.

[moonslav59]

I think they could dump any of those guys but Ort onto another team for a younger prospect. I believe that's how we have received guys like Koss in the past.

 

I'd take a few Koss-like gambles and free up some roster slots.

 

Agreed, Ort would just be DFA'd.

 

I do think we might get a better player than Koss for a Duran + Downs + Dhern package. Maybe a Winckowski or E Valdez type or a non 40 man roster type like Wikelman, Lugo or Jordan/Kavadas.

[mvp 78]

I'd take a few Koss-like gambles and free up some roster slots.

 

Agreed, Ort would just be DFA'd.

 

I do think we might get a better player than Koss for a Duran + Downs + Dhern package. Maybe a Winckowski or E Valdez type or a non 40 man roster type like Wikelman, Lugo or Jordan/Kavadas.

 

I think Duran, Seabold and DHern each have better trade value than what was dealt for Koss. Downs is veering close to a dump, but I wonder if the Sox just hold onto him for one more year and hope for the upside.

 

Unfortunately, I have a hunch that we are going to be stuck with Brasier as the 13th BOS pitcher. I'm not a fan, but it could always be worse.

[moonslav59]

I think Duran, Seabold and DHern each have better trade value than what was dealt for Koss. Downs is veering close to a dump, but I wonder if the Sox just hold onto him for one more year and hope for the upside.

 

Unfortunately, I have a hunch that we are going to be stuck with Brasier as the 13th BOS pitcher. I'm not a fan, but it could always be worse.

 

I agree on Downs. His trade value is close to nil, but he still has time to take a big step forward- maybe one more year.

 

Brasier has 99 lives.

 

Duran and DHern still show serious skills at the AAA level. I'm just fed up with both. BTV has Duran at 5.9, which I think is double his value.

 

It really comes down to how much another GM values 2-3 of them and how we value what they offer back-- I know, brilliant concept, right?

 

[mvp 78]

Well, we got our answer on Downs.

[moonslav59]

Well, we got our answer on Downs.

 

I'm kinda surprised.

 

My guess is, someone claims him.

[a700hitter]

You can’t hit sub .200 at AAA more than one season.

[moonslav59]

You can’t hit sub .200 at AAA more than one season.

 

One year was 39 ABs.

[a700hitter]

One year was 39 ABs.

He hit sub .200 in 99 games in ‘21 and in 81 games in ‘22.

[mvp 78]

I'm kinda surprised.

 

My guess is, someone claims him.

 

He has a terrible zone contact %. The swing and miss he has is just horrible. When he makes contact, it's very hard, but he just doesn't have the bat to ball skill that was advertised. It's funny because people thought his bat would carry him and he'd have to move to 2b, but his defense has improved, but his bat has held him back. He was released by his winter league team because he was playing so bad.

[mvp 78]

One year was 39 ABs.

 

???

 

2021: 405 PA in AAA

2022: 335 PA in AAA

[moonslav59]

Soxprospects.com discussed why maybe Hamilton was protected, as some team might have taken him due to the new baserunning-improvement rules.

 

They think Wikelman and Bonaci might be too far away, but with so many tanking teams, maybe they get taken.

 

They discussed Ward and Politi as most likely to be taken. Wallace is too inconsistent, in their opinion.

 

They had Abreu as 50-50.

 

Basically, they said they would n ot have been surprised with Hamilton & Abreu being protected, if Ward had been, too.

 

 

http://news.soxprospects.com/2022/11/podcast-ep-265-rule-5-protection.html

 

There is more discussion around who should have been protected a few pages back from page 1.

[moonslav59]

Paulino and Bonaci are far away. Wikelman is far away, but it's risky to leave him unprotected. I believe Ward was left unprotected due to health concerns, but I would have protected him for sure. I believe Fernandez ended the season with an injury, but he's close to providing an MLB team with bullpen help. I don't think Koss, Jimenez or Bastardo would be selected. Politi or Wallace could be selected, but there are probably better options available on other rosters.

 

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[moonslav59]

Highest Ranked Sox Prospects Left Unprotected on Rule 5:

 

9. Paulino

13. Wikelman

18. T Ward

19. Bonaci

37. R Fernandez

38. C Koss

39. Jimenez

43. Angel Bastardo

49. Politi

50. Wallace

 

Updated rankings come out next week.

 

 

Another

[moonslav59]

Soxprospects.com discussed why maybe Hamilton was protected, as some team might have taken him due to the new baserunning-improvement rules.

 

They think Wikelman and Bonaci might be too far away, but with so many tanking teams, maybe they get taken.

 

They discussed Ward and Politi as most likely to be taken. Wallace is too inconsistent, in their opinion.

 

They had Abreu as 50-50.

 

Basically, they said they would n ot have been surprised with Hamilton & Abreu being protected, if Ward had been, too.

 

 

http://news.soxprospects.com/2022/11/podcast-ep-265-rule-5-protection.html

 

Good discussion on link...

[moonslav59]

They probably only protect 5 or 6 guys at most.

 

My guess:

Valdez

Paulino

Rafaela

Walter

Ward

Wikelman (maybe)

 

another

[moonslav59]

This winter's Rule 5 eligible players:

 

Enmanuel Valdez (Minor League FA- if signed to a minor league deal, he'd be Rule 5.)

 

Wilyer Abreu

Dan Altavilla

Angel Bastardo

Brock Bell

Royman Blanco

Brainer Bonaci

Zach Bryant

Cameron Cannon

Brendan Cellucci

Felix Cepeda

Kole Cottam

Wil Dalton

Joe Davis

Osvaldo De La Rosa

Luis De La Rosa

Tyler Dearden

Nick Decker

Jonathan Diaz

Alex Erro

Tyler Esplin

Albert Feliz

Durbin Feltman

Ryan Fernandez

Ryan Fitzgerald

Feleipe Franks

Grant Gambrell

Rio Gomez

Wikelman Gonzalez

Bryan Gonzalez

Devlin Granberg

David Hamilton

Gabriel Jackson

Axel James

Gilberto Jimenez

Christian Koss

Austin Lambright

Dominic LoBrutto

Eduardo Lopez

Bryan Lucas

Naysbel Marcano

Elih Marrero

Chris Murphy

Brendan Nail

Andres Ortuno

Yusniel Padron-Artiles

Eddinson Paulino

Aaron Perry

AJ Politi

Ceddanne Rafaela

Jose Ramirez

Oscar Rangel

Tyreque Reed

Carlos Reyes

Jorge Rodriguez

Giancarlos Santana

Victor Santos

Stephen Scott

Cody Scroggins

Chase Shugart

Nick Sogard

Noah Song

Dylan Spacke

Luis Talavera

Jake Thompson

Freddy Valdez

Michael Valera

Eduardo Vaughan

Jacob Wallace

Brandon Walter

Thaddeus Ward

Alex Zapete

Ryan Zeferjahn

 

My post

[mvp 78]

My post

 

You didn't have Hamilton OR Song highlighted! Swing and a miss!

[moonslav59]

You didn't have Hamilton OR Song highlighted! Swing and a miss!

 

...and proud of that!

[mvp 78]

At least you can say whatever you want on this part of TalkSox and not have a certain contingent yell at you.