2020 Prospects

[jacksonianmarch]

What I think you’re going to see is a far more consistent approach to drafting and developing. The Rays have a farm that is maybe the best in the game, if not, then they’re top 5. And they’re great every single year. Yes, they deal off good big league talent when they start to get expensive. Yes, they’ve had years where they’ve picked high in the draft. But Bloom created a cheap, deep and very talented team by avoiding the easy way and maximizing return. Bloom has absolutely maximized proximity with his deals. You don’t see a lot of MLB guys going for a four prospect package who haven’t seen AA yet. And he usually wins his deals. So as this rebuild goes into effect and he does deal off players for prospects, I expect the Sox ranking to rise considerably.

[moonslav59]

I'd rather have a few high level prospects that are close to ready than a stacked farm that can't help you this year and may never get close enough anyway.

 

We have neither- just a bunch of guys on the outside showing just enough promise to add a sliver of hope.

 

Even Chavis, D Hern & Dalbec are long shots.

 

We've gotten basically nothing since Devers.

[mvp 78]

Even Chavis, D Hern & Dalbec are long shots.

 

Chavis and Hernandez will be on the opening day roster. Dalbec will contribute at some point this year. Long shots for what? Long shots to contribute? Nope. Long shots to make the All Star team? Sure.

[notin]

Chavis and Hernandez will be on the opening day roster. Dalbec will contribute at some point this year. Long shots for what? Long shots to contribute? Nope. Long shots to make the All Star team? Sure.

 

So you think Dalbec is a surefire contributor? Even Chavis slowed down significantly after a hot start...

[mvp 78]

So you think Dalbec is a surefire contributor? Even Chavis slowed down significantly after a hot start...

 

Chavis contributed last year, no? Doesn't that count as a contributor for 2019? If Chavis continues to slow down, Dalbec will more than likely be given a shot.

[notin]

Chavis contributed last year, no? Doesn't that count as a contributor for 2019? If Chavis continues to slow down, Dalbec will more than likely be given a shot.

 

Chavis did at first, but he slowed down immensely. Now, he could go absolutely off this year and make the All star team. Or he could be demoted by June. It's all up in the air.

 

But that doesn't make Dalbec a lock for anything. And the acquisition of Moreland doesn't help him...

[moonslav59]

Chavis contributed last year, no? Doesn't that count as a contributor for 2019? If Chavis continues to slow down, Dalbec will more than likely be given a shot.

 

He contributed for 2-3 weeks, then hit under .700. (He did keep getting RBIs despite the slump, however.)

[moonslav59]

Chavis and Hernandez will be on the opening day roster. Dalbec will contribute at some point this year. Long shots for what? Long shots to contribute? Nope. Long shots to make the All Star team? Sure.

 

Yes, they'll be on the 26 man roster, but they are still huge question marks.

 

Besides, our 40man roster is only 19-20 deep.

[notin]

Chavis contributed last year, no? Doesn't that count as a contributor for 2019? If Chavis continues to slow down, Dalbec will more than likely be given a shot.

 

And maybe the Sox can give Dalbec some reps at 2B.

 

The way teams play infield defense nowadays, with all these shifts that put the 2B in short right field, maybe a strong arm becomes more important than range for the position.

 

And as he is 6'4", he might not be as agile and mobile as some 2B like Peraza or Lin, but he can make some of that up diminished range with his extended reach, especially if he is willing and capable of diving for a few groundballs...

[jacksonianmarch]

MLB pitchers found a Grand Canyon sized hole at the top of the zone in Chavis' swing. It will be difficult for him to fix that with his current swing mechanics. He will need to rework his swing and take away some of the upper cut, which will likely limit some of his power. Once teams found he couldn't hit a high fastball, it was over for him. He is a breaking ball masher and crushes everything down. Most batters you don't want to leave anything up to, but this guy you need to go up with power and he is an auto out

[moonslav59]

I'm no expert on prospects, especially those from other teams like the Dodgers, but here is my top Sox prospects list (open for adjustment):

 

1. Downs

2. Casas

3. Mata

4. Jimenez

5. Dalbec

6. Ward

7. Groome

8. Lugo

9. A Ramirez

10. Wong

11. Duran

12. Chatham

13. Houck

14. Zeferjahn

15. Wilson

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mvp 78]

Guys on SoxProspects believe Casas is #1, Downs #2 based on Casas' hit tool.

[moonslav59]

Soxprospects.com has this listed for our 2022 projected roster:

 

C Vaz & Wong

1B Casas & Chavis

2B Downs & Lin

3B Devers & Dalbec

SS Bogey & Chatham

LF Beni

CF Duran & Wildon

RF Verdugo

DH Martinez

 

SP Sale, Eovalid, Mata, Ward & Groome

RP DHern, Houk, Taylor, Feltman, Brasier, Velazquez, Osich, Mazza, Shugart, Aybar

 

By 2023, add Zeferjahn, N Song, Jimenez, Cannon & Decker among others

[moonslav59]

soxprospects.com projects this roster for 2021:

 

C Vaz & Plawecki

1B Moreland (option) & Chavis

2B Downs & Peraza

3B Devers & Dalbec

SS Bogey & Chatham (Lin)

LF Beni

CF Duran & Wilson

RF Verdugo

DH JD

SP Sale, ERod, Eovaldi, Perez, Mata/Ward

RP DHern, Barnes, Taylor, Houck, Hembree, Brasier, Feltman, Velazquez, Osich, Mazza

[mvp 78]

That’s 30 roster spots.

[moonslav59]

That’s 30 roster spots.

 

I cheated and added some from the AAA roster I thought might compete for a job. (I should have noted who they were.)

 

They did list 27, not counting Pedey.

[moonslav59]

soxprospects.com slots Jeter Downs 2nd and Conner Wong 12th.

 

1. Casas

2. Downs

3. Mata

4. Groome

5. Jimenez

6. Dalbec

7. Duran

8. Houck

9. Song

10. Chatham

11. Ward

12. Wong

[notin]

soxprospects.com slots Jeter Downs 2nd and Conner Wong 12th.

 

1. Casas

2. Downs

3. Mata

4. Groome

5. Jimenez

6. Dalbec

7. Duran

8. Houck

9. Song

10. Chatham

11. Ward

12. Wong

 

Wong is below Chatham? That doesn't bode well. Chatham is likely a utility infielder at best. That's not necessarily a bad thing; it means he might actually make the majors. But I had higher hopes for Wong's actual hitting. I know there are issues regarding where he can actually play, however...

[moonslav59]

Wong is below Chatham? That doesn't bode well. Chatham is likely a utility infielder at best. That's not necessarily a bad thing; it means he might actually make the majors. But I had higher hopes for Wong's actual hitting. I know there are issues regarding where he can actually play, however...

 

Ward should be higher than Chatham, too and probably #7 or 8.

 

Without a true position, it's hard to value Wong.

[moonslav59]

soxprospects.com slots Jeter Downs 2nd and Conner Wong 12th.

 

1. Casas

2. Downs

3. Mata

4. Groome

5. Jimenez

6. Dalbec

7. Duran

8. Houck

9. Song

10. Chatham

11. Ward

12. Wong

 

My top rankings might look like this:

1. Downs

2. Casas

3. Mata

4. Jimenez

5. Dalbec

6. Ward

7. Groome

8. Wong

[Slasher9]

"i could be wong, i could be wright"

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[notin]

Ward should be higher than Chatham, too and probably #7 or 8.

 

Without a true position, it's hard to value Wong.

 

It really depends on what the ranking is based on. Is it likelihood of making the Majors? Is it likelihood of contributing in the Majors?

[mvp 78]

I think Ward is still ranked lower because there is a lot of uncertainty as to what his future will look like as he really came out of nowhere. Right now, they don't believe he has a ceiling as high as Mata's.

[moonslav59]

I think Ward is still ranked lower because there is a lot of uncertainty as to what his future will look like as he really came out of nowhere. Right now, they don't believe he has a ceiling as high as Mata's.

 

Agreed, and I have him lower than Mata, but how certain are we about Casas?

[mvp 78]

Agreed, and I have him lower than Mata, but how certain are we about Casas?

 

People seem to think he's a sure thing unless a fluke injury happens.

[notin]

People seem to think he's a sure thing unless a fluke injury happens.

 

How different is that from the consensus about Lars Anderson?

[mvp 78]

How different is that from the consensus about Lars Anderson?

 

18th rounder vs a 1st rounder. Which one is a more sure bet?

[notin]

18th rounder vs a 1st rounder. Which one is a more sure bet?

 

Lars was drafted in the days when players fell due to (perceived?) signability issues.

 

BA #17 vs BA #80. Which one is the safer bet?

[notin]

18th rounder vs a 1st rounder. Which one is a more sure bet?

 

 

Let's ask Trey Ball and Mauricio Dubon...

[mvp 78]

Let's ask Trey Ball and Mauricio Dubon...

 

Trey Ball never had any success. Dubon wasn't highly regarded until a few years into his career.