2019-20 MLB Offseason Thread

[Jack Flap]

I figured we could use a thread like this for news worthy of a post but not necessarily its own thread...like...

 

Mike Moustakas signing with the Reds for 4 years and $64 million (apparently to play second base). Raise your hand if you saw that coming.

[moonslav59]

I suggested we sign Moose instead of Moreland a couple years back.

 

$64 is a lot of money. It looks like prices are not going down.

[notin]

So apparently Jose Peraza is a serious non-tender candidate now...

[Bellhorn04]

Zack Wheeler may be signing soon. His deal is expected to top the $100 million mark. White Sox are making a serious push.

[mvp 78]

I wonder if GM's wouldn't be losing their minds over Wheeler if he wasn't a 1st round pick.

[notin]

I wonder if GM's wouldn't be losing their minds over Wheeler if he wasn't a 1st round pick.

 

Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

 

I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...

[mvp 78]

Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

 

I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...

 

Hard agree.

[Bellhorn04]

Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

 

I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...

 

Except Wheeler has pitched 377.2 innings over the last 2 seasons. So he's got a nice Recency Effect going for him.

[notin]

Except Wheeler has pitched 377.2 innings over the last 2 seasons. So he's got a nice Recency Effect going for him.

 

Recency Bias.

 

Since 2013, Wheeler has 749 IP and Eovaldi has 763 IP...

[notin]

Cole Hamels is a Brave

[Slasher9]

wheeler to the phillies 5/$100MM

[mvp 78]

wheeler to the phillies 5/$100MM

 

Passan says it's about 5/118

[Slasher9]

my bad...i meant to add a "+" sign.

this is a great pickup by the phils.

a nice #2 to Nola and hurts a division rival at same time.

[moonslav59]

Cole Hamels is a Brave

 

Wow, $18M/1.

 

No way Porcello gets just $8M/1 as some said he might take.

[moonslav59]

Wheeler's career is remarkably similar to Eovaldi's, right down to the significant injury history.. And Eovaldi has only $51mill left plus represents the opportunity to dump an unproductive contract. Yet Wheeler is the Hottest New Thing while Eovaldi is completely unloved.

 

I guess in this respect, Eovaldi is a bargain...

 

Wheeler vs Eovaldi:

 

Last 2 years:

Wheeler (378 IP) 23-15 3.65 (107 ERA+, 1.19 WHIP, 3.6 K/BB)

Eovaldi (179 IP) 8-8 4.63 (97 ERA+, 1.30 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

 

Last 3 years:

Wheeler (464 IP) 26-22 3.94 (100 ERA+, 1.27 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

Eovaldi (179 IP) 8-8 4.63 (97 ERA+, 1.30 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

 

Last 5 years:

Wheeler (464 IP) 26-22 3.94 (100 ERA+, 1.27 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

Eovaldi (458 IP) 31-19 4.52 (95 ERA+, 1.35 WHIP, 2.7 K/BB)

 

Even the 5 year numbers are not really close, except for the IP. Still, if Wheeler is worth $118M/5, Eovaldi's deal looks like a bargain.

[notin]

Wheeler vs Eovaldi:

 

Last 2 years:

Wheeler (378 IP) 23-15 3.65 (107 ERA+, 1.19 WHIP, 3.6 K/BB)

Eovaldi (179 IP) 8-8 4.63 (97 ERA+, 1.30 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

 

Last 3 years:

Wheeler (464 IP) 26-22 3.94 (100 ERA+, 1.27 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

Eovaldi (179 IP) 8-8 4.63 (97 ERA+, 1.30 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

 

Last 5 years:

Wheeler (464 IP) 26-22 3.94 (100 ERA+, 1.27 WHIP, 3.1 K/BB)

Eovaldi (458 IP) 31-19 4.52 (95 ERA+, 1.35 WHIP, 2.7 K/BB)

 

Even the 5 year numbers are not really close, except for the IP. Still, if Wheeler is worth $118M/5, Eovaldi's deal looks like a bargain.

 

Are they really so far apart? Eovaldi's ERA+ is 5% off of Wheeler's. Their WHIP differs by 0.08, which is 8 hits or walks per 100 IP, or about 12 per 150 IP season. They both have had very significant injury histories. Atthose prices, I take Eovaldi as the better deal...

[notin]

The Seattle firesale continues. Narvaez to the Brewers...

[Bellhorn04]

I guess Marisnick won't be playing for us in 2020 after all. The Mets just traded for him.

[notin]

I guess Marisnick won't be playing for us in 2020 after all. The Mets just traded for him.

 

It shouldn't be too tough to find the next Jake Marisnick. The only real question is - why would you want to?

[notin]

Rays get OF Hunter Renfroe, minor leaguer INF Xavier Edward, and another prospect for Tommy Pham and minor league SS/P Jake Cronenworth...

[moonslav59]

Rays get OF Hunter Renfroe, minor leaguer INF Xavier Edward, and another prospect for Tommy Pham and minor league SS/P Jake Cronenworth...

 

The Rays save maybe about $5M on the deal.

[notin]

The Padres have a glut of outfielders yet they keep trading them for more outfielders...

[moonslav59]

It shouldn't be too tough to find the next Jake Marisnick. The only real question is - why would you want to?

 

He's cheap. He's a great defensive OF'er. He's got a .728 OPS over the last 3 years- about the same as JBJ's.

 

Yes, there are plenty of players like him out there. I bring his name up a lot, because I live in Houston and like his style of play and his grit. I'd be fine with us obtaining someone like him while saving $8-10M, assuming we deal JBJ.

[notin]

He’s not all that cheap. He made $1.9mill last year and probably gets $2.5 mill or so this year. That’s not expensive, but career bench players can be had for less. His appeal was that Cora knows him and apparently likes him.

 

Keon Broxton is a better defensive player with intermittent yet powerful hitting skills and made minimum wage last year. Go get him, Bloom!!

[moonslav59]

He’s not all that cheap. He made $1.9mill last year and probably gets $2.5 mill or so this year. That’s not expensive, but career bench players can be had for less. His appeal was that Cora knows him and apparently likes him.

 

Keon Broxton is a better defensive player with intermittent yet powerful hitting skills and made minimum wage last year. Go get him, Bloom!!

 

I'd be fine with Broxton, but he's never had an .800+ season. He hasn't been over .719 since his first season. He has a .565 OPS the last 2 years. While Jake's is not great (.689), it's much better than that!

[notin]

I'd be fine with Broxton, but he's never had an .800+ season. He hasn't been over .719 since his first season. He has a .565 OPS the last 2 years. While Jake's is not great (.689), it's much better than that!

 

To be fair to Broxton, his playing time the last few seasons was sporadic. And in that season with the .719, he got off to an absolutely horrific start, but his OPS through May and all of June was nearly .900. He settled in with a .746 OPS after May 1, which is certainly acceptable for a minimum wage player...

[moonslav59]

To be fair to Broxton, his playing time the last few seasons was sporadic. And in that season with the .719, he got off to an absolutely horrific start, but his OPS through May and all of June was nearly .900. He settled in with a .746 OPS after May 1, which is certainly acceptable for a minimum wage player...

 

I'd be fine with Broxton. He won't cost as much as Marisnik did, either.

 

[notin]

White Sox claim Tayron Guerrero.

 

Guerrero was one guy I always wanted to Sox to get and hopefully fix. Dude has the fastest fastball in MLB - quite often topping 100 mph. His average velocity last season of 99.4 mph was a full mph over Aroldis Chapman's.

 

Of course, what Guerrero lacks is any sort of command, control and possibly sense of direction. His increased velocity so far has just meant that ball four gets past the hitter a little quicker than it does from other pitcher.

 

Still, he would be exciting if he was fixable...

[notin]

The Brewers - one of a handful of active teams - signed notin-favorite Keon Broxton to a minor league deal. I'm starting to get disappointed in Chaim Bloom here...

[Bellhorn04]

Strasburg stays with Nats.

 

7/245 Wow.