Game Thread Sep 19/19 Giants (Bumgarner) @ Red Sox (E-Rod)

[TylerD]

Only Sale and health can prove you wrong.

 

How many teams have a better number 1 or 2?

 

I'd say maybe 20-30 have a better #1 and 5-10 a better #2. I'm not sure anyone has a #3 better than ERod, so calling him a 3-4 is rather rash.

 

Agreed! We will see what happens next season with Sale.... He did seem to find his fastball down the stretch but he just couldn't string together good games. He would have one or two and then follow it up with a string of bad games.

[moonslav59]

Agreed! We will see what happens next season with Sale.... He did seem to find his fastball down the stretch but he just couldn't string together good games. He would have one or two and then follow it up with a string of bad games.

 

Many times, it was just one bad inning after 2-4 good to excellent one in those starts he failed.

[moonslav59]

Sale had a roller coaster season:

 

7 ER in 3 IP

1 ER in 6

9 ER in next 2 starts (9 IP)

2.44 ERA in his next 12 starts (77.1 IP)

5 ERs in each of his next 3 starts (15 ER in 16.1 IP)

2 ER in next 2 starts (12 IP)

14 ER in next 2 starts (9 IP)

0 ER in 8 IP

3 ER (5 runs) in next start (6.2)

 

It was feast or famine with one nice 12 start stretch.

 

Worst starts

8 ER in 3.2 IP

7 in 3.0 IP

6 in 5.1

(18 ER in his worst 3 starts - 12 IP)

Take away those 3 starts, and his ERA is 3.59 not 4.40.

 

5 in 4.0

5 in 4.2

5 in 5.2

5 in 6.0

4 in 5.0

4 in 5.0

[vegasbob]

What Sale had was a "short" season once again, as did Price. Combined 251 innings from your #1 and #2 explains some of the season difficulties.

[moonslav59]

What Sale had was a "short" season once again, as did Price. Combined 251 innings from your #1 and #2 explains some of the season difficulties.

 

Sure does. I guess it's possible they might have more IP had we been "in it," but no doubt Sale & Price are a big reason for our huge drop off from 2018 to 2019, but this list shows others may be more "to blame."

 

I know some here hate WAR, but let's look at the fWAR variances from 2018 to 2019:

 

-4.0 Betts

-3.0 JD

-2.6 Sale

 

-2.2 Beni

-2.1 Pearce

-1.9 Eovaldi (just with the Sox!)

-1.3 JBJ (mostly on D)

-1.1 Porcello

 

-0.5 Brasier

-0.4 Moreland

-0.3 Leon

-0.2 Barnes

-0.2 Velazquez

 

-0.0 Price

-0.0 Johnson

+0.1 Holt

 

+0.8 Walden

+1.3 Bogey

+1.4 ERod

 

+2.1 Workman

+2.8 Vaz

 

+4.3 Devers

 

Chavis +0.9 vs HRam

DHern +0.4 vs Wright

Cashner +0.2 vs Pom

Lakins +0.1 vs C Smith

Taylor -0.3 vs Kimbrel

Brewer -0.3 vs Poyner

Weber -0.2 vs Kelly