Chavis

[S5Dewey]

If he maintains a proper workout regimen, he can legally maintain the majority of any bulk that was added. But if he is maintaining through a legal unaided workout, is he still “reaping the benefits of PEDs”?

 

See, I'm not sure what you say here, that he can maintain that bulk by a regular workout regimen, is true. Do you have anything to back that up other than your thoughts? And I'm not being smarmy - that's a legitimate question that I've been asking here for some time.

 

As to whether he's still reaping the benefits of PED's, as long as he has that bulk, yes, he certainly is reaping the benefits. It's like saying that someone who robs a bank can keep the money and spend it as long as he stops robbing banks.

 

I would prefer to see more research into how long the effects of steroid use stay in the body than a "medically-induced coma for the duration of their suspension in order to expedite the muscular atrophying process". Then we can decide how long they have to remain in the coma.

[mvp 78]

Can someone change the spelling on this title?

 

No, Chevis is how it's spelled now.

[Slasher9]

So should any player who tests positive be placed in a medically-induced coma for the duration of their suspension in order to expedite the muscular atrophying process? Or can we as fans just stop attaching stigmas to players even after they are no longer using?

 

no, not at all. but it will continue to be hard for me to root for said player. that was my point. i wasnt trying to come up with alternative punishments. i was simply answering your question - stating that he is continuing to reap the benefits of the cycle he did.

[mvp 78]

no, not at all. but it will continue to be hard for me to root for said player. that was my point. i wasnt trying to come up with alternative punishments. i was simply answering your question - stating that he is continuing to reap the benefits of the cycle he did.

 

ThEn WhY dOn'T yOu HaTe BiG PaPi?

[Slasher9]

Michael Chavis has the edge over Will Middlebrooks in a comparison of the first nine games of their respective MLB careers:

 

MC 35 PA, 28 AB, 5 R, 3 HR, 8 RBI, 6 BB, 8 K, .286/.429/.643/1.071

WM 41 PA, 39 AB, 5 R, 3 HR, 11 RBI, 2 BB, 10 K, .282/.317/.641/.958

 

something tells me this WMB v Chavis troll job will become EPIC for years to come. one of your better plays Harm.

[Slasher9]

ThEn WhY dOn'T yOu HaTe BiG PaPi?

 

never said "hate".

also, i am one of the people that put zero and i literally mean 0 faith/belief in the 2003 test results reporting. i have never used that list to ping any ballplayer.

[mvp 78]

something tells me this WMB v Chavis troll job will become EPIC for years to come. one of your better plays Harm.

 

Keep Chevis away from Guerin.

[mvp 78]

never said "hate".

also, i am one of the people that put zero and i literally mean 0 faith/belief in the 2003 test results reporting. i have never used that list to ping any ballplayer.

 

I was messing with you.

[jacksonianmarch]

Chavis has a much better approach and patience compared to WMB. If it was near the plate, WMB was swinging.

[mvp 78]

Chavis has a much better approach and patience compared to WMB. If it was near the plate, WMB was swinging.

 

WMB decided before the pitch was thrown if he was swinging or not.

[harmony]

something tells me this WMB v Chavis troll job will become EPIC for years to come. one of your better plays Harm.

I might agree if Will Middlebrooks had outperformed Michael Chavis through nine games.

 

But I noted quite the opposite.

 

Objectivity is a heavy cross to bear.😃

[moonslav59]

K's in the minors

 

Chavis: 437/1726 PAs (25.3%) 28.1% per AB

 

Middy: 702/2795 (25.1%) 27.5% per AB

 

[Bellhorn04]

K's in the minors

 

Chavis: 437/1726 PAs (25.3%) 28.1% per AB

 

Middy: 702/2795 (25.1%) 27.5% per AB

 

 

What about walks.

[moonslav59]

What about walks.

 

Chavis

 

.257 BA

.325 OBP

133 BB/1726 PAs (7.7%)

 

Middy

 

.271 BA

.325 OBP

198 BB/2795 (7.1%)

[dgalehouse]

Chavis seems like a good kid . ( Unlike Steven Wright ) I would give him a pass for the one mistake .

[jung]

Keep Chevis away from Guerin.

 

Now that is funny! Good one.

[Spudboy]

Reminiscent of 2010 Ryan Kalish.

 

How so? I remember Kalish as a speedy toolsy guy who f***ed up his shoulder making diving plays.

[mvp 78]

How so? I remember Kalish as a speedy toolsy guy who f***ed up his shoulder making diving plays.

 

He was one of the few interesting spots on a team that was floundering.

[Spudboy]

But did he do his time? If MLB is going to give suspensions shouldn't the point of the suspension be to remove any advantage a player gets by used PED's?

 

I agree that he "did his time" as MLB stipulated. I'm just not at all sure he (and every other PED user) didn't continue to reap the benefits of the PED's even as they returned to the game.

 

His biggest attribute appears to be hand-eye coordination and the resulting bat speed. I don't know that any lingering residue of a PED would be responsible for this current display with the bat.

 

I don't know what he took and how long he took it. I assume that he has been "clean" since he got suspended.

 

With steroid usage of sufficient duration, we can see increase in musculature, possible gaped teeth, and possible pronounced forehead. I don't see any of that with Chavis.

 

f*** the enigma. I think it's naive to believe that he is the guilty exception when most young players will probably take almost anything to help their chances of getting to the show. He was just dumb enough and/or unlucky enough to get caught.

 

I think the kid is kind or a pretentious puke but I want him playing in Boston every day until he hits a wall and does not adjust.

 

Then hand him a bus ticket to Pawtucket.

[Spudboy]

He was one of the few interesting spots on a team that was floundering.

 

Ahhh. Yeah he was fun to watch.

 

Too bad he got all f***ed up with injuries.

[Spudboy]

Who goes when Nunez and Holt are back?

 

Can’t send Chavis down now.

 

Dangle Nunez in trades and see if there is any interest.

 

For that matter, do the same with Holt.

[Spudboy]

He’s apparently a very overly religious kid too. Nothing like believing god will bring you success while you’re jabbing a needle in your ass

 

I would say "Overtly", not overly. But your point is funny.

[mvp 78]

Ahhh. Yeah he was fun to watch.

 

Too bad he got all f***ed up with injuries.

 

If he wasn't sent to AAA to get injured, he would have been a 10x All Star.

[mvp 78]

Dangle Nunez in trades and see if there is any interest.

 

For that matter, do the same with Holt.

 

Nobody wants either of those guys. No chance. Nunez makes too much and is too injury prone. Holt is just a permanent DL/IL guy.

[mvp 78]

He’s apparently a very overly religious kid too. Nothing like believing god will bring you success while you’re jabbing a needle in your ass

 

Not sure what religion has to do with steroids, but you do you.

[Spudboy]

So should any player who tests positive be placed in a medically-induced coma for the duration of their suspension in order to expedite the muscular atrophying process? Or can we as fans just stop attaching stigmas to players even after they are no longer using?

 

Lol. I like this post bigly.

 

I have not seen photos of his body before and after. So I can't quantify his increase in muscle mass.

 

Did he , in fact, use a PED that would result in an increase of muscle or was he using something like Aderall (sp)?

 

In any case, I am with cp176 on this.

 

I would bet that many if not most young men in MiLB do something to get an edge.

 

The stakes are too high not to.

 

Of course I have very little faith in mankind to be ethical.

[Slasher9]

paul oneill is an overly religious guy and he was juicy. maybe they teach it in bible school?

[Bellhorn04]

Nobody wants either of those guys. No chance. Nunez makes too much and is too injury prone.

 

Nunez wouldn't even bring back the proverbial bag of baseballs right now.

[harmony]

He was one of the few interesting spots on a team that was floundering.

The Red Sox won 89 games in 2010 when I witnessed Ryan Kalish's first MLB home run:

 

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYA/NYA201008060.shtml

[mvp 78]

paul oneill is an overly religious guy and he was juicy. maybe they teach it in bible school?

 

DHMCT entered my system like manna from heaven.