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i actually think 2b is our weakness. specifically 2b defense. DD needs to upgrade here. Pedroia IMO is not going to contribute this year. and we have a good shot at making the postseason so should be all in on 2018.

 

If Pedroia will be unable to return, then I'd tend to agree.

 

As of now, I think we can afford to wait the situation out a little longer.

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If Pedroia will be unable to return, then I'd tend to agree.

 

As of now, I think we can afford to wait the situation out a little longer.

 

The way I understand it, Pedey is not going to take part in baseball related activities for a few weeks and concentrate on healing and whatever physical therapy they choose to keep him in shape. After that period which will be into July, they will have to test his situation again and see if he is likely to be able to return to playing this season. If not, they will have time to come up with a full time second baseman. Until that time they can play Holt and Nunez who can fill in but shouldn't be considered fulll time replacements. There was a list of probable replacements who are adequate fielders but none are the kind of players some on the site yearn for (game changers).

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There's also a chance Nunez's knee improves and/or Holt has built the stamina to last the season.

 

I'm still not sure that even if Pedey never plays again this year, 2B will be our biggest need at the deadline.

 

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....I really think it's about a World Series title right ? Raffy Devers vs Machado this year who gives us the better D and offense for that push ? I think it's Machado and I'd make the trade today .Go all in Dave it's time .

 

Just NO!

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I wouldn't trade Devers for machado, Britton and enough cash to keep us under the $40M line this year.

 

2 month rental trades suck!

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There's also a chance Nunez's knee improves and/or Holt has built the stamina to last the season.

 

I'm still not sure that even if Pedey never plays again this year, 2B will be our biggest need at the deadline.

 

i dont know if we can have a parade with holt as our everyday 2B. even Bellhorn was a + dWar player in 2004. not to mention the offense he brought to the table. there is no way pedroia will contribute this year. DD needs to get us a 2bman. it is our biggest need. (unless Marco is coming back healthy in the next couple months???)

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I wouldn't trade Devers for machado, Britton and enough cash to keep us under the $40M line this year.

 

2 month rental trades suck!

 

No balls no glory ....do you ...I'll be me .....I like me and my life....I wonder if Houston went nutless and never traded for Verlander how things would have worked out ? .....cough

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No balls no glory ....do you ...I'll be me .....I like me and my life

 

It's not about having balls.

 

It's a dumb trade idea that would cripple us starting next year.

 

Plus, getting Machado doesn't improve our odds all that much for 2018.

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Herrera to a World series contender for peanuts. "But we got Barnes and blown shoulder Thornberg" Priceless!

 

Diamond Dave asleep at the wheel. Thanks John Tom Larry

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It's not about having balls.

 

It's a dumb trade idea that would cripple us starting next year.

 

Plus, getting Machado doesn't improve our odds all that much for 2018.

Man Devers has as much a chance at putting this team over the top as Brock Holt ...Go get Machado if you can get him for Pomeranze and some depends great .

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Herrera to a World series contender for peanuts. "But we got Barnes and blown shoulder Thornberg" Priceless!

 

Diamond Dave asleep at the wheel. Thanks John Tom Larry

 

Weird time for a trade like this.

 

The early word is the Royals didn't get any of the Nats top prospects... even weirder.

 

If the Sox had made this trade, we'd have gone over the max limit, assuming we dumped no salary of our own.

 

 

The Nats will take over the $7,937,500 salary that Herrera is earning in his final season of arbitration eligibility. With 82 of the 186 service-eligible days of the MLB calendar already in the books, the Washington organization will be on the hook for something like $4.44M.

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It's not about having balls.

 

It's a dumb trade idea that would cripple us starting next year.

 

Plus, getting Machado doesn't improve our odds all that much for 2018.

Just for giggles ok

Sale ....Price ....Wright....Porcello .....Velazquez

 

Betts

Benny

Machado

JD

Xander

Holt

Devers ......trade Erod and Pom and a kid is another route ....we do have other ways $$

Vaz

JBJ

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Just for giggles ok

Betts Sale ....Price ....Wright....Porcello .....Velazquez

 

 

Benny

Machado

JD

Xander

Holt

Devers ......trade Erod and Pom and a kid is another route ....we do have other ways $$

Vaz

JBJ

 

Want giggles. What if we do that trade and make the wildcard and get knocked out in the first game.

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Just for giggles ok

Sale ....Price ....Wright....Porcello .....Velazquez

 

Betts

Benny

Machado

JD

Xander

Holt

Devers ......trade Erod and Pom and a kid is another route ....we do have other ways $$

Vaz

JBJ

 

The O's don't want Pom.

 

We're 12-1 in ERod starts.

 

How about trading HRam's contract, Hembree, Johnson, Swihart and Beeks?

 

It's about equally absurd- just in reverse.

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Weird time for a trade like this.

 

The early word is the Royals didn't get any of the Nats top prospects... even weirder.

 

If the Sox had made this trade, we'd have gone over the max limit, assuming we dumped no salary of our own.

 

 

The Nats will take over the $7,937,500 salary that Herrera is earning in his final season of arbitration eligibility. With 82 of the 186 service-eligible days of the MLB calendar already in the books, the Washington organization will be on the hook for something like $4.44M.

 

Moon ...it's a fantastic time to make a move and it's just the start of it ....this year maybe more than years past we have the cream that has risen to the top maybe a couple close races ? But the teams that are all in are going to be aggressive it's time you know this...NY and Boston will be going for it .

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Moon ...it's a fantastic time to make a move and it's just the start of it ....this year maybe more than years past we have the cream that has risen to the top maybe a couple close races ? But the teams that are all in are going to be aggressive it's time you kno it .

 

We are not trading Devers or ERod.

 

We might trade Pom to a contender for a prospect, assuming he comes back from an injury.

 

We have no great prospects to bring us anything very special.

 

It's just not in the cards this year. We shot our wad with multiple mega signings and trades over the last couple years.

 

We might make a tweak move here or there, but nothing like Machado.

 

It's time you know it.

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Best case scenario:

 

Pom comes back and looks sharp. Hembree and Swihart up their stock over the next 6 weeks,

 

We trade Pom, Hembree and Swihart for some prospects.

 

We flip those prospects and maybe add one or two of our own and get someone who does not put us over the max penalty cost line. Even then, it won't be enough for Machado.

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Best case scenario:

 

Pom comes back and looks sharp. Hembree and Swihart up their stock over the next 6 weeks,

 

We trade Pom, Hembree and Swihart for some prospects.

 

We flip those prospects and maybe add one or two of our own and get someone who does not put us over the max penalty cost line. Even then, it won't be enough for Machado.

 

.....how in the world do you know this LOL ???? We have Dave as our GM he will not and I repeat not wait with his thumb in his ass .Swihart sucks he's a terrible player now he has no value Pom is filler at best If we want the big fish and the Ring it's Erod ,Devers ,JBJ ,Xander those guys are on the block for the ALL in scenario .Xander is off limits the rest can start packing

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Danny Ainge was willing to trade Kyrie for what he thought could be the missing link in a championship ....These GMs have huge egos ....I think we are 1 bat away .....I think that Neck Tat is every bit the pitcher POM is at this stage and I believe wright is well rested and can step in for Erods spot ....Sale ,Price ,Wright ,Porcello ,Neck Tat is a hell of a rotation still....Moon if we could land Realmutto ? For a lesser package and keep Devers ? I am all in on that also ....JBJ Pom Swihart and Beeks ? For Realmutto ? Sign me up yesterday . Edited by Natick to NC
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Danny Ainge was willing to trade Kyrie for what he thought could be the missing link in a championship ....These GMs have huge egos .

 

Danny Ainge has so many pieces to consider. he built a team for now and the future.

 

Don't compare the two.

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Danny Ainge has so many pieces to consider. he built a team for now and the future.

 

Don't compare the two.

 

Really ? Why not bud ? Because of his deep Bench ? What about ours ?....unless your name is JD ,Xander,Big Red ,Mookie ,Benny .... Your on the Block that includes Rick ,Erod ,Pom ,Vaz ,Sandy ,Swihart ,Nunez ,Mitch ,Barnes ,Kelly ,Beeks ,,,,,,Cora......it's Now for this team there is no next year .

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Really ? Why not bud ? Because of his deep Bench ? What about ours ?....unless your name is JD ,Xander,Big Red ,Mookie ,Benny .... Your on the Block that includes Rick ,Erod ,Pom ,Vaz ,Sandy ,Swihart ,Nunez ,Mitch ,Barnes ,Kelly ,Beeks ,,,,,,Cora......it's Now for this team there is no next year .

 

Trading ERod or Devers is not trading the bench.

 

Our bench is fine when compared to other benches, but they aren't valuable enough to get Machado.

 

Mostof our players are too highly paid for the O's to want, and the young guys they'd want, Beni, Devers & ERod are not only part of our essential core for 2018 and 2019, they are some of the few that are essential to our future beyond 2019 or 2020.

 

DD is not trading any of our best young core for 2 month rental.

 

This isn't fantasy baseball, where you can reboot your team next season.

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Machado ,Realmutto are the guys I'd like to see here ....I believe Dave can get one.

 

Of course, he can, if he makes a super dumb trade.

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Of course, he can, if he makes a super dumb trade.

 

I'd give up Sale for another World Series this year would you ?...A couple more names .....Scooter G to take over for Pedey ,Syndergaaaaaard .....the only name I've heard today is The guy in Colly Lemeyhew ??? Nice split vs lefty pitching ? Don't know the guy like the swing though .

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I'd give up Sale for another World Series this year would you ?...A couple more names .....Scooter G to take over for Pedey ,Syndergaaaaaard .....the only name I've heard today is The guy in Colly Lemeyhew ??? Nice split vs lefty pitching ? Don't know the guy like the swing though .

 

Scooter G would be a greaat addition to the team but probably would require too much in trade.

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